craigkillie Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Obviously not, don’t know why you felt the need to single that comment out. Usually award ceremonies are filmed by the organisers themselves, with snippets of the night put out on social media or from people attending since we all have a camera in our pocket these days. The organisers have done exactly that on their own Twitter account, and there have been loads of photos from attendees on social media. Your post made it sound like it was some sort of cloak and dagger event not fit for outside prying eyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Well I’m still blaming Tam Cowan despite all the evidence to the contrary. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Lofarl said: Well I’m still blaming Tam Cowan despite all the evidence to the contrary. He does come across as the sort of guy who would endorse such jokes at the expense of others You hear him moaning all the time on OTB about “getting jailed” for telling jokes these days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Ric said: Who would have thought an old white bloke, with a stiffy for all things Rangers, would deliver an after dinner speech that doesn't reflect modern culture. Perfect for a large part of the journo audience of course, many still live in that world, the rest of us have moved on and I applaud Barbour, Bennett and others for calling this sort of shit out. As for Spiers, he may be right regarding his non-attendance, but part of me thinks it was nothing to do with the content and all to do with Spiers not getting the attention he thinks he deserves, and is now able to play the virtue signalling card. Cheers Ric. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokerson Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 At no point anywhere on twitter or anywhere can i find what he actually said to cause people to walk out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Smokerson said: At no point anywhere on twitter or anywhere can i find what he actually said to cause people to walk out? You better get on the phone to Elon Musk then, m8, hes in cherge now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, bennett said: Cheers Ric. Is your first name Gabriella? I mean, cool if it is... 13 minutes ago, Smokerson said: At no point anywhere on twitter or anywhere can i find what he actually said to cause people to walk out? For obvious reasons. You do, however, know the subjects involved; racism and misogyny. Looking at the statement from SFWA, it's a bit weak, perhaps they are concerned about any legal/civil action by giving it the boilerplate "we are sorry if anyone was offended", although it stops considerably short of accepting the content was offensive. Yet if it wasn't offensive why are they now doing a review of the material? What's more this is not Copeland's first turn at this, he apparently spoke there in 2018 too. It would be somewhat uncomfortable for them should a recording of that talk surface, and it contained him doing similar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 For obvious reasons. You do, however, know the subjects involved; racism and misogyny. Looking at the statement from SFWA, it's a bit weak, perhaps they are concerned about any legal/civil action by giving it the boilerplate "we are sorry if anyone was offended", although it stops considerably short of accepting the content was offensive. Yet if it wasn't offensive why are they now doing a review of the material? What's more this is not Copeland's first turn at this, he apparently spoke there in 2018 too. It would be somewhat uncomfortable for them should a recording of that talk surface, and it contained him doing similar.Amazing that at a journalism do of all places, it appears to be hush hush and no one recorded anything of note…..[emoji3] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Amazing that at a journalism do of all places, it appears to be hush hush and no one recorded anything of note….. You feel if you have footage of yourself laughing along with racist jokes, you might not want to share it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I guess succulent lamb isn't served alongside the racism and sexism. It wasn't Spiers who came out with the "succulent lamb" line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_Kahn Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, roman_bairn said: Amazing that at a journalism do of all places, it appears to be hush hush and no one recorded anything of note….. Wouldn't have predicted this, but the Mail has just published a fair bit more detail, including some of the offending lines: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10797217/Guests-walk-Scottish-Football-awards-ceremony-sexist-racist-homophobic-jokes.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The death knell of the sprtsmans dinner starts here -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Are folk doubting that it was offensive shit said? Multiple people walked out. Are we to believe they were all being unreasonable? Or do you 'need to see the comments for yourself'? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The death knell of the sprtsmans dinner starts hereMaybe the 1980s throwback version with the same auld duffers going round and round in circles trotting out the same played out anecdotes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 30 minutes ago, Binos said: The death knell of the sprtsmans dinner starts here Maybe the 1980s throwback version with the same auld duffers going round and round in circles trotting out the same played out anecdotes... New version to finish dinner before speakers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Are folk doubting that it was offensive shit said? Multiple people walked out. Are we to believe they were all being unreasonable? Or do you 'need to see the comments for yourself'? I don't think wanting to know what was said, implies doubt about it happening at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 hours ago, AJF said: I've noticed a few folk linking this story to Rangers somehow. It's very odd behaviour. Not to mention comparing racist/sexist/homophobic jokes to jokes about football does little to help or highlight Eilidh's complaints. its in the DNA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't think wanting to know what was said, implies doubt about it happening at all. Aye, I’m not sure it’s much of a negative to want to make an informed opinion before jumping in two footed. I’ve no reason to doubt them but I’ve avoided making any comment here without knowing a word of what was said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The death knell of the sprtsmans dinner starts hereFirst of all, this was not a sportsman's dinner, it was a professional awards ceremony. The audiences are different and any good speaker would realise that (though in this case it seems as though the material was offensive regardless of who it was for).Secondly, it is entirely possible to give after dinner speeches without racist, sexist or homophobic jokes. Lots of really good speakers manage it, and doing it in the context of football should be an absolute home run for a speaker because it provides so much easy material. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Are folk doubting that it was offensive shit said? Multiple people walked out. Are we to believe they were all being unreasonable? Or do you 'need to see the comments for yourself'? Personally, I don’t believe anything until I’ve read it on Twitter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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