RiG Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 "Dreadful interruption"!? JFC! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, RiG said: "Dreadful interruption"!? JFC! Ok that is astounding 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) If you asked MacKay right now whether he thinks he has done something wrong, in all likeliness he'd say "no". I say that based on the numerous times he tried to deny, dismiss then blame others for his actions. I say that based on his continued silence rather than an out and out public apology. I say that because of his reaction to Courts 'red shirt' display. It's clear he, himself, feels that he has done nothing wrong and that it's everyone else's fault for not seeing that or that "we're all too PC" or "woke" or whatever. * insert confused Skinner meme * No amount of white washing by his mates in the media will change people's opinions until MacKay comes out and shows genuine contrition. Something he has steadfastly avoided from the very moment the story broke. Should people be allowed a second chance? Of course they should, but it needs to come after some self-reflection, something that MacKay (at least publicly) seems to have conveniently moved away from. Edited October 30, 2021 by Ric 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Nobody has suggested that Mackay should be barred from working in football.Oh yes they have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RiG said: "Dreadful interruption"!? JFC! Graham's trolling again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, sophia said: It isn't hard to find journalistic output that indicates views contrary to the ones you express https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city/re-educated-malky-mackay-hopes-for-a-fresh-start-in-939990 Quote I've done loads of courses and am now an expert, so ... 48 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: 4 hours ago, Pull My Strings said: Nobody has suggested that Mackay should be barred from working in football. Oh yes they have. He declared (but alas without any further explanation). Or do you just mean that's an opinion that someone, somewhere once expressed? There are folk on the internet with every opinion imaginable, let's not pretend that they inform or represent the mainstream debate. Nobody, here, is arguing that Mackay should be banned and to suggest otherwise is to deliberately misrepresent the conversation. Better? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Nobody, here, is arguing that Mackay should be banned and to suggest otherwise is to deliberately misrepresent the conversation. Better?It's not like we're talking one guy in his parents attic in Coatbridge hammering away rants about Mackay. At the time of his Scotland appointment there were many folk saying he shouldn't be allowed to work in football. It wasn't a majority view, but certainly enough to get a list seat on the parliament of opinions.Not sure how I was supposed to know you were only talking about people on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I briefly worked with a guy who was on day release after doing time for racial violence. He mentioned something about taking part in some sort of diversity training while he was in jail. Having heard how often he still casually slipped a bit of the old racism into everyday speech, I'm going to guess that he did the training purely to get on the route to release, much like Malky likely did his training to get back into his chosen field of work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAE1929 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I imagine the training is a bit like a driving awareness course when you get done for speeding. Doesn't actually change your driving in the long run, but it's worth doing instead of a harsher punishment. The issue with Mackay as many have said, he is still yet to give a meaningful apology, and again as others have said, you just need to look at the reaction to the Fuchs incident to see where his mindset is. Get him to f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: And again FFS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Mackay sent some horrible messages that were released by the person he sent them too. The guy who released them, iirc was a horrible wee shite himself who did it to put him in the shit, not through some higher moral reasoning. Mackay didn't actually hurt anyone by sending those messages, so I tend to feel a bit "he who hath not sinned" about the opprobrium coming his way. In answer to @Dons_1988, I don't think he'll ever be allowed to move on so long as he remains in football. He could do all the campaigning and the most soul-bearing mea culpa demanded of him and it wouldn't be enough. Righteous anger is too intoxicating and getting to dump the shit we don't want to see in ourselves on other people is irresistible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 He hasn't done any of that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 29/10/2021 at 09:22, ol1vercloff said: I reckon he could get any job he wanted in Czech Republic, Hungary or these sorts of dark ages European countries. I'm finding your stance against prejudice quite inspiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Fantastic display from Charlie Telfer at Broadwood today, who, in spite of being sent off in the 50th minute, provided an assist in the 67th minute, and scored himself in added time. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Stu said: And again FFS. "John Beaten" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomCat Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59102122 Suggesting in the article that the suspended Ryan Christie could replace Dykes up front against Moldova. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 That's that cleared up then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: That's that cleared up then. c**t needs to go back to playing the piano on Scotsport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 FFS!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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