Dons_1988 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, KnightswoodBear said: Hairy muff. See edit above for clarification 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Usual attention to detail from the BBC. I noticed yesterday that there wasn't a single mention for the Aberdeen game on the BBC football home page right before kick off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Even by BBC standards this is a horrific article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47360698 He put a season-ending and career-threatening challenge in on Matt Henvey yet he's given the time and space here to paint himself as the victim. Should thugs like him really be glorified in this way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I always like reading articles about the real men and their lives leading up to football. I think it's a valuable article in that it teaches us compassion that we forget when we're in a larger body of football supporters, seeing the player only as a one-dimensional baddie. It doesn't say that the challenge itself was deliberate, and the article does say that it was a season-ending one. The article talks about his temperament and his "competitiveness" while giving context to it all. That's not terrible journalism, it's actually good journalism. I have a feeling your inclusion of this article in this thread has more to do with your hatred of MacKinnon than with any lowering of journalistic standards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbleweed Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Why is it horrific? He is not defending the tackle, he is criticising the way Dundee fans reacted to him being seriously injured and how he felt about that. Its not really all that difficult to understand. In the article it is explained that he is using his past to dissuade younger players from going down the same route which is not a bad use of his time, and your reaction says more about your inability to separate a game from real life. If anything is horrific, it is that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Surprisingly a decent enough read. Guessing The Master isn't the boy who phoned up to apologise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Sensitive Derry boys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 What’s wrong with the article isn’t necessarily the “from prison to being a footballer” aspect (although whether he should be seen as a role model is still debatable). It’s that he’s been given a platform to paint himself as a victim in a situation, despite that situation being borne out of him putting in a season-ending and (what was at the time) career-threatening challenge on a promising young player. Take that out and the article still tells the story it wants to. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
List_of_Jericho Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3960327/rangers-scott-mckenna-graeme-shinnie-si-ferry-open-goal/ Apparently passing on what Simon Ferry and his mates were discussing on the team bus now counts as journalism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 05/03/2019 at 17:59, The Master said: Even by BBC standards this is a horrific article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47360698 He put a season-ending and career-threatening challenge in on Matt Henvey yet he's given the time and space here to paint himself as the victim. Should thugs like him really be glorified in this way? I love the way MacKinnon says he would've gone into the Dundee end,(sure you would have Darian ), because Dundee fans were taunting him about his career ending which would have affected his family. Amazing how his own concern for his family is thrown out the window if he's considering jumping in amongst a group of men to get torn to shreds. Darian logic - Shouting bad, violence good. He's thick as mince. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 09:59, The Master said: Even by BBC standards this is a horrific article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47360698 He put a season-ending and career-threatening challenge in on Matt Henvey yet he's given the time and space here to paint himself as the victim. Should thugs like him really be glorified in this way? Hardly painting himself as the victim. He basically said he deserved jail time and blamed no one else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: Hardly painting himself as the victim. He basically said he deserved jail time and blamed no one else. I think you need to re-read my post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, The Master said: I think you need to re-read my post. The bit where you said he was given space in the article to paint himself as the victim and I pointed out he accepted the punishment for his actions and blamed no one else or some other part? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: The bit where you said he was given space in the article to paint himself as the victim and I pointed out he accepted the punishment for his actions and blamed no one else or some other part? The bit before that. My post had f**k all to do with his prison sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The bit before that. My post had f**k all to do with his prison sentence.So the bit in the linked article that clearly shows he doesn't play the victim isn't as important as your biased interpretation of his view on opposition fans wanting him and his family in financial dire straits.Good stuff. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: So the bit in the linked article that clearly shows he doesn't play the victim isn't as important as your biased interpretation of his view on opposition fans wanting him and his family in financial dire straits. Good stuff. You mean apart from the bit where he does play the victim, whining about some things said to him after he ended the season of another player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4Oyarder Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I look forward to giving him plenty of verbals at the weekend...if he fancies diving heid first into the East Stand at Fir Park, I'd be mightily pleased by that -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 What kind of a name is Darian anyway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, nsr said: What kind of a name is Darian anyway? A Lannister one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 You mean apart from the bit where he does play the victim, whining about some things said to him after he ended the season of another player?Ah. Not the bit that was really important. The bit where he lost a chunk of his life and didn't blame anyone else for it.Got you now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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