The Terrible Journalism & Tom English Thread

[craigkillie]

1 hour ago, Owsley said:

The National, and presumably The Herald too, say Adam Hammill's wonder goal was from fully 50 yards. Do they think pitches are only 100 yards in length?

Football pitches are between 100 and 130 yards in length. Based on what I can find online, Easter Road has a pitch length of 112 yards. So scoring from just inside your own half would be approximately 56 yards.

[7-2]

15 hours ago, craigkillie said:

Football pitches are between 100 and 130 yards in length. Based on what I can find online, Easter Road has a pitch length of 112 yards. So scoring from just inside your own half would be approximately 56 yards.

So further than the 50 yards stated then.

[LiviLion]

On 30/11/2018 at 20:01, The Master said:

I suppose we can count this as “journalism”.

They've outdone themselves here:

[vikingTON]

The fairytale where they played zero SPL sides until the final.  Same with Falkirk in 2015 playing zero Premiership ones.

Gretna sworded self-declared powerhouse of the game Dundee in the quarters though, to extend what is now a truly hilarious 108 years run without lifting the Scottish Cup. It also induced a collective meltdown from the away support who traipsed down expecting the ‘natural order’ to assert itself.

So some credit where it’s due please.

[TheScarf]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

 

Gretna sworded self-declared powerhouse of the game Dundee in the quarters though, to extend what is now a truly hilarious 108 years run without lifting the Scottish Cup. It also induced a collective meltdown from the away support who traipsed down expecting the ‘natural order’ to assert itself.

So some credit where it’s due please.

 

I meant to green that. I foolishly glossed over them  overcoming Dundee. A win against all the odds imo.

 

Edit - was it not the semi's? 

Edited December 8, 2018 by TheScarf

[DA Baracus]

Aye it was the semis. I recall watching it in the pub before a game at East End.

Here's who Gretna beat en route to the final;

Preston Athletic

Cove Rangers

St Johnstone

Clyde (in a replay)

St Mirren 

Dundee

Edited December 8, 2018 by DA Baracus

[The Master]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

 

Gretna sworded self-declared powerhouse of the game Dundee in the quarters though, to extend what is now a truly hilarious 108 years run without lifting the Scottish Cup. It also induced a collective meltdown from the away support who traipsed down expecting the ‘natural order’ to assert itself.
 

 

You sure about that?

[Guest JTS98]

On 12/4/2018 at 18:33, TheScarf said:

The fairytale where they played zero SPL sides until the final.  Same with Falkirk in 2015 playing zero Premiership ones.

To be fair, I actually see runs like that as one of the real strengths of cup football. It's not supposed to be fair and equal and about beating all the best teams. That's what league football is. Cup football just chucks everyone in a hat and every now and then you get a wee team plodding through for their day in the sun.

Better than just having the same teams in the final stages all the time like the Champions League with its seeding.

[cowboy]

davie provan in his weekly column, after only 4000 killie fans turned out for the game against livi last week, davie provan wants to know where the Ayrshire public go on matchdays? thats, davie provan from largs, wants to know where the Ayrshire public go on matchdays? yes, davie provan, the rabid celtic fan from largs, wants to know where the Ayrshire  public go on matchdays?

you couldn't make it up

oh, and he was still peddling, the only thing that got neil McCann the sack was Jordan jones's dive, yup, no other reason at all

[RandomGuy.]

Shaughnessy was born in Galway.

Tommy Wright's contract is until 2022.

It's not even hard to find these things out.

[Dons_1988]

11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Shaughnessy was born in Galway.

Tommy Wright's contract is until 2022.

It's not even hard to find these things out.

Yeah but he kind of looks like Rory Mcilroy, therefore...

[Dee Man]

[RandomGuy.]

19 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

So desperate to get a photo that involves one of the old firm, I imagine.

[Swello]

 this piece entitled "Celtic and Rangers dominance is down to attendances"  - where the writer makes the fairly pedestrian point that (shockingly enough), the OF having support that dwarfs everyone else means that they are pretty much untouchable, is fairly typical but after laying out the normal case that we are all familiar with, he ends with:

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The other Scottish clubs need to be inventive and creative to find solutions to Old Firm dominance, and that’s the real worry – they’ve no idea.

I can accept that the level of dominance is down to the massive increase in the financial disparity between the OF and the rest in the last couple of decades - but it does my head in that someone actually thinks that simply by being "creative", that now unassailable advantage can be magiked away. That is as far away from being credible as it's possible to get - and inferring that the blame for this situation somehow lies with a lack of imagination from the other clubs is the icing on the cake...

As a test, let's imagine the reaction in the same press that bemoans the lack of competition if the non-OF clubs proposed a wage cap so that Rangers and Celtic were restricted to spending the same amount as Dundee or Kilmarnock could afford.  Or imagine that it was proposed that the Top 4 at the end of the season had a post-season knockout for the title. Those would probably come under "creative" and would certainly be a partial solution to Rangers and Celtic winning the league every year - but they would be pilloried as pie-in-the-sky nonsense and there would be deluge of outraged headlines and spittle-flecked hot-takes at the very idea (and obviously there would be Statements of the quality that we could only dream of). 

If anyone has some imaginative ideas, we should probably collect them and send them into the SPFL...

 

[Dons_1988]

10 minutes ago, Swello said:

 this piece entitled "Celtic and Rangers dominance is down to attendances"  - where the writer makes the fairly pedestrian point that (shockingly enough), the OF having support that dwarfs everyone else means that they are pretty much untouchable, is fairly typical but after laying out the normal case that we are all familiar with, he ends with:

I can accept that the level of dominance is down to the massive increase in the financial disparity between the OF and the rest in the last couple of decades - but it does my head in that someone actually thinks that simply by being "creative", that now unassailable advantage can be magiked away. That is as far away from being credible as it's possible to get - and inferring that the blame for this situation somehow lies with a lack of imagination from the other clubs is the icing on the cake...

As a test, let's imagine the reaction in the same press that bemoans the lack of competition if the non-OF clubs proposed a wage cap so that Rangers and Celtic were restricted to spending the same amount as Dundee or Kilmarnock could afford.  Or imagine that it was proposed that the Top 4 at the end of the season had a post-season knockout for the title. Those would probably come under "creative" and would certainly be a partial solution to Rangers and Celtic winning the league every year - but they would be pilloried as pie-in-the-sky nonsense and there would be deluge of outraged headlines and spittle-flecked hot-takes at the very idea (and obviously there would be Statements of the quality that we could only dream of). 

If anyone has some imaginative ideas, we should probably collect them and send them into the SPFL...

 

That's such a lazy and pointless article there's no real point dissecting it.

But it doesn't even touch on the £30m Celtic receive just for qualifying for the Champions League.  What he actually does say is just a boring regurgitation of an age old discussion.

 

[TheScarf]

'The other Scottish clubs need to be inventive and creative to find solutions to Old Firm dominance, and that’s the real worry – they’ve no idea.'

Interesting take.  We could all do a Rangers and spend money we can't pay back and then die?

[Bairnardo]

That's such a lazy and pointless article there's no real point dissecting it.
But it doesn't even touch on the £30m Celtic receive just for qualifying for the Champions League.  What he actually does say is just a boring regurgitation of an age old discussion.
 

It would be good to sit down with him, or even just put him on Sportsound and let someone like Tom English do it, and say to him, right break this down for me. In regards to what should the other clubs be "inventive or creative"?

Are we talking players, are we talking boardroom? Are we talking supporter numbers? Gies an example of what it is you are suggesting.... The flanneling would be on the "Scottish fitbaw needs a strong Rainjurz" type of level.

[bairney]

Looking for somewhere to post this - could this be a certain Mr. Anthony Stokes? 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/major-irish-sport-star-investigated-13716868.amp

[TheCelt67]

3 minutes ago, bairney said:

Looking for somewhere to post this - could this be a certain Mr. Anthony Stokes? 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/major-irish-sport-star-investigated-13716868.amp

"Major" Irish sports star, so no.  Besides, punishment beatings and passing around collection buckets would surely be more of a Stokes pass time. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

9 minutes ago, bairney said:

Looking for somewhere to post this - could this be a certain Mr. Anthony Stokes? 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/major-irish-sport-star-investigated-13716868.amp

It will be some egg chasing c**t.

Or a shinty player or whatever they call it in Southern Ireland.

Guaranteed to be a Celtic fan though.