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The SNP say the Tories denying IndyRef2 is unsustainable 
Sadly, they can deny a S30 as long as they want
Really want to hear a Plan B from the SNP on this 
Crossing our fingers and hoping Boris fires over a S30 won’t cut the mustard for much longer 


Another couple of marches and a couple more screenings of Braveheart in George Square should do the trick. It’s happening!

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Why's Mintermind so obsessed with the films of Mel Gibson? Film & TV forum for this pish.

Spoiler

I much preferred Maverick and The Man Without A Face.

 

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11 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said:

The SNP say the Tories denying IndyRef2 is unsustainable 

Sadly, they can deny a S30 as long as they want

Really want to hear a Plan B from the SNP on this 

Crossing our fingers and hoping Boris fires over a S30 won’t cut the mustard for much longer 

What options are there though? They won't hold an unofficial referendum as it would never be recognised. 

The only other route I can see is a legal one and that's not guaranteed and would take a long time. 

Like it or not the UK government can just keep saying 'you had your referendum, respect it and get on with the dayjob'. 

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5 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51082184

 

He's changed his tune, presumably this means they expect SNP majority in 2021.

"Referendums are very divisive for our society and I think the time now is for us all to pull together as one United Kingdom, and go forward and take on the benefits that exist.

"Let's see the benefits of Brexit."

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5 hours ago, Nigel said:
5 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:
'The Scottish branch of the IRA"
You hear yourself... What a melt

I know some of the individuals in the photo. I know of their involvement in the Republican movement during the 80s and 90s.

It would be very hard to recognise anyone in those photos (apart from the f*** the govern't one).

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Went to this yesterday, not really my thing so hadn’t been before but after the last general election felt I had to come, will most likely go to another this year now. Couldn't get over the size despite the rally being cancelled and the weather. 

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19 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:


 

 


I assume Mankyjaiket was leading the counter-demo?

 

He was there in his manky and very wet jaiket

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Aye must have cost him a fortune yesterday dishing out the £20 per head to attend his counter demo FB_IMG_1578856480180.jpeg

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There is no way of forcing a referendum as

1. there is no legal mechanism to do so (pro-Indy blogger Peat Worrier has written very convincingly on this)

2. because oil / net contribution to exchequer

3. because they intend over time to undermine devolution and the SNP government by starving it of funds and slowly peeling away layers of devolved power. See powers being repatriated from Brussels as the first straw in the wind.

Some new ideas are needed. Marching from A to B (particularly in yesterday's howling conditions) is very admirable but theatre becomes tiresome when it has no content, ultimately. This is the most hard right and dictatorial government in our lifetimes. The idea that they'll play along politely and "respect democracy" when the democratic outcome appears not their their liking is just laughable.

They don't have to pay attention to this stuff, and they won't. The SNP's move, really.

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If, as expected, the London Government will not agree to a Section 30 order this week.
They will not recognize the mandate of the democratically elected Scottish parliament.
Would it be fair to say Unionism is now Colonialism?

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8 hours ago, Highland Capital said:

Why does the "A Force for Good" logo look almost identical to that of the BNP?

Saves time for everybody else.

Edited by Baxter Parp

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8 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Should get the SNP MPs to single out a Tory and just kick f**k out of them each week.

A Tory mp or just some guy off the street?

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A Tory mp or just some guy off the street?
Could start with the Falkirk fan on here.

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A Tory mp or just some guy off the street?


MP, maybe an exception for Dominic Cummings. Mhairi Black would fold him in half.

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3 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said:

Some new ideas are needed. Marching from A to B (particularly in yesterday's howling conditions) is very admirable but theatre becomes tiresome when it has no content, ultimately. This is the most hard right and dictatorial government in our lifetimes. The idea that they'll play along politely and "respect democracy" when the democratic outcome appears not their their liking is just laughable.

They don't have to pay attention to this stuff, and they won't. The SNP's move, really.

I watched some footage from yesterday's march and it was excerably embarrassing.  Lots of jimmy bunnet clad gonks getting Glengarried up and hating The English and The Tories as per.  Pics of a wee Union Flag placed atop a horse jobby with cretins taking pics of it in some sort of triumph.  Lots of Irish tricolours around and banners declaiming support for Irish unity as well as at least one banner with an INLA symbol.  Add that to the SNP MPs having a photo-op with IRA/Sinn Fein during the week and it's clear that Scotland's independence movement is going awry.

I've been derided for it before but I will say it again:  Scottish independence can't be trusted to the partizan xenophobes of the SNP.  If, as you said, a new idea is needed, then it has to be placed in the hands of those whose priority is social and economic development rather than LCD factionalism.

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22 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Should get the SNP MPs to single out a Tory and just kick f**k out of them each week.

 

16 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

Saves time for everybody else.

 

13 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said:

A Tory mp or just some guy off the street?

 

11 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:
13 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said:
A Tory mp or just some guy off the street?

Could start with the Falkirk fan on here.

 

10 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

 


MP, maybe an exception for Dominic Cummings. Mhairi Black would fold him in half.

 

The Scotch.  Kicking their way to independence since 2014...

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