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25 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said:

what does OBFA stand for ? 

Its an acronym for The Offensive Behaviour at Football (and Threatening Communications) Act.

Unfortunately, Malky cut and paste some misleading information on this. He's been challenged on this numerous times, but instead either ignores or deflects.

Which is strange, as he's quite quick to demand answers from other people or indeed, call them liars.

 

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4 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

The City of London extracts wealth from the rest of the UK's regions, inquiry submission finds

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/14605/city-london-extracts-wealth-rest-uks-regions-inquiry-submission-finds

But better together, right?

To be fair for England and London it's been fucking great.

It's jolly nice that 55% of Scots want to look after them so much.

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5 minutes ago, strichener said:

Substitute CEC for tfl, trams for Crossrail, TEL for Cross London Rail Links Ltd and Edinburgh Tram Lines 1 and 2 act for Crossrail 2008 Act. and the two projects are near identical in structure.  If someone quotes Crossrail as a UK Government vanity project then the Trams cannot escape the same label for the Scottish Government.

I am surprised that @lichtgilpheadhasn't been on berating you for not putting the name and party in your post.  

Speaking of transport ministers and the trams.

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Is this you admitting that the Edinburgh trams were not in fact a government vanity project, but an Edinburgh council one ?

Or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it ?

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32 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Its an acronym for The Offensive Behaviour at Football (and Threatening Communications) Act.

Unfortunately, Malky cut and paste some misleading information on this. He's been challenged on this numerous times, but instead either ignores or deflects.

Which is strange, as he's quite quick to demand answers from other people or indeed, call them liars.

 

Offensive Behaviour at Football !!  ……….my only excuse for not knowing that is that it simply doesn't happen in the East of Scotland League.

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.....whilst Brother Blades tries to machine gun them all down. After all in his mind it doesn't matter how much it fucks up Scotland so long as it hurts the English more

You are hilarious.

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The UK Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the ROI. The ROI Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the UK. Both sides are adamant they want to stick to the terms of the "Good Friday Agreement". The only party that appears to be insisting on a hard border is the EU. 
So how exactly are we going to "take back control of our borders" if we don't want a border? What exactly is the fucking point of Brexit?

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The UK Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the ROI. The ROI Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the UK. Both sides are adamant they want to stick to the terms of the "Good Friday Agreement". The only party that appears to be insisting on a hard border is the EU. 
LOL at this attempt to separate ROI from the EU for the sake of your argument.

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8 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said:
1 hour ago, Malky3 said:
The UK Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the ROI. The ROI Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the UK. Both sides are adamant they want to stick to the terms of the "Good Friday Agreement". The only party that appears to be insisting on a hard border is the EU. 

So how exactly are we going to "take back control of our borders" if we don't want a border? What exactly is the fucking point of Brexit?

It's simple. The UK border will stop foreigners (especially dark-skinned foreigners) from getting in, but will not hinder imports or exports of goods in any way whatsoever.

How? By use of technology, unicorns & fairy-dust.

It's obvious.

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30 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
2 hours ago, Malky3 said:
The UK Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the ROI. The ROI Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the UK. Both sides are adamant they want to stick to the terms of the "Good Friday Agreement". The only party that appears to be insisting on a hard border is the EU. 

LOL at this attempt to separate ROI from the EU for the sake of your argument.

Hardly. It's absolutely relevant. The ROI - a member of the EU - borders the UK. it doesn't want a hard border, neither does the UK but because of the lack of a Brexit agreement the EU is insisting on a hard border. 

If Scotland was ever stupid enough to vote for independence and then joined the EU (as per your example) it would put itself in exactly the same position as the ROI - one that the Irish PM calls a National Emergency. 

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27 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

It's simple. The UK border will stop foreigners (especially dark-skinned foreigners) from getting in, but will not hinder imports or exports of goods in any way whatsoever.

How? By use of technology, unicorns & fairy-dust.

It's obvious.

That's exactly the argument that was being put forward by Scottish Nationalists on here just a page or two ago. They argued we should forget the reality of what is happening right now with Brexit and simply assume that the EU will be fine with an open Scotland / England border. Oh and there's no need to worry about smuggling or migrants illegally crossing the border cause the Tweed is a bit cold, the Solway Firth is a bit dangerous, and the Keilder Forest is a bit dark and scary. 

The EU will be happy with that I'm sure! 😒

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34 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

It's simple. The UK border will stop foreigners (especially dark-skinned foreigners) from getting in, but will not hinder imports or exports of goods in any way whatsoever.

How? By use of technology, unicorns & fairy-dust.

It's obvious.

The troll has quoted my post above ^^. He seems to think I was being serious.

It must have been the reference to unicorns & fairy dust. 

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2 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Trying to picture thousands of Cumbrian and Northumbrian refugees braving the icy cold depths of the Tweed to escape Brexit England and reach the promised land.

Now thinking about migrants in rubber dinghys braving the North Sea and sailing the length of England before disembarking at Eyemouth and making their way back across the border to England.

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3 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Now thinking about migrants in rubber dinghys braving the North Sea and sailing the length of England before disembarking at Eyemouth and making their way back across the border to England.

You laugh but El Chapo is probably drawing up plans for a cocaine highway into Scotland through one of these border straddling forests. #bettertogether

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18 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

You laugh but El Chapo is probably drawing up plans for a cocaine highway into Scotland through one of these border straddling forests. #bettertogether

Me and the lads getting ready to smuggle bottles of Buckfast and Irn Bru across the border.

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4 hours ago, Malky3 said:

True - Westminster knocked back the Withdrawal Agreement, which is where we came into this part of the conversation. One of the other forum members said that Sturgeon and the SNP had made a poor strategic mistake in rejecting the Withdrawal Agreement. A comment i'd agree very strongly with.

I disagree. The continued backstop issue over Ireland stimulates it's push towards reunification and the ultimate break up of the United Kingdom. Strategically sound from our First Minister tbh.

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1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Me and the lads getting ready to smuggle bottles of Buckfast and Irn Bru across the border.

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Could you smuggle some of the old Irn Bru into Scotland while you're at it? The newer stuff is shite. Ta.

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The UK Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the ROI. The ROI Government has stated it does not want a hard border with the UK. Both sides are adamant they want to stick to the terms of the "Good Friday Agreement". The only party that appears to be insisting on a hard border is the EU. 

The UK government insisted from the outset it didn't want freedom of movement. It could have pursued a soft Brexit but wanted to appease a minority of racists.

 

Basically they thought they could keep the good bits and lose the bad bits and were roundly told to get to f**k.

 

If a no deal happens and a hard border is the result it will be down to racist c***s in England and morons such as yourself who makes excuses for them.

 

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Now thinking about migrants in rubber dinghys braving the North Sea and sailing the length of England before disembarking at Eyemouth and making their way back across the border to England.
Don't understand why poor Africans don't sail to a point in the thousands of miles of unguarded Norwegian coastline then they can simply walk all the way, through forests and stuff, to a nice country like Germany.

Baffles me so it does.

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1 hour ago, AUFC90 said:

The UK government insisted from the outset it didn't want freedom of movement. It could have pursued a soft Brexit but wanted to appease a minority of racists.

 

Basically they thought they could keep the good bits and lose the bad bits and were roundly told to get to f**k.

 

If a no deal happens and a hard border is the result it will be down to racist c***s in England and morons such as yourself who makes excuses for them.

 

Here we go again. If ever a question is asked that Nationalists can't answer the best thing to do is resort to anti-English xenophobia and to abuse any Scot who voted against Scottish Independence. 

Is that debating strategy in some sort of Wings manual? 

Of course in Scotland we don't have any problems with racism. We're far too consumed in sectarianism and xenophobia to worry about that shit aren't we? 

As I said we could have had a Withdrawal Agreement that kept an open border with the ROI but the Scottish Nationalists kept on voting it down. This has been a strategic disaster for the nationalist cause - hasn't it? 

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