tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 For information, Sweden, which had never been in the EU, applied to join on 1 July 1991 and became a member on 1 January 1995, 3 1/2 years later. A country which has been in the EU for 46 years and which meets all entry requirements will have a far shorter negotiating period.And? Were in. Moronic to think otherwise. How is cross border trade with England in this scenario? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 So will the Snippers include an EU accession timetable as part of any future independence ballot? Thought not.See no reason why not. It's be a winner and cause the eu to put cards on the table at last.End of the day if you think Scotland isn't eu compatible at some point in 0-5 years you're a brain donor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, tirso said: 7 hours ago, Tibbermoresaint said: For information, Sweden, which had never been in the EU, applied to join on 1 July 1991 and became a member on 1 January 1995, 3 1/2 years later. A country which has been in the EU for 46 years and which meets all entry requirements will have a far shorter negotiating period. And? Were in. Moronic to think otherwise. How is cross border trade with England in this scenario? The same as it is for any other EU member. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Not sure how more wrong you could be about this one. Celtic were established precisely because of Scotland's tolerance of immigrants. Their entire raison d'etre (in the early days) was not to feed the poor and hungry of the East End but, in fact, to stop them taking Presbyterian soup i.e. to stop them enjoying the generosity of the native Scots. I do like any chance to boot the empty-headed Yessers on here in the metaphorical baws but you got this one badly wrong.[emoji102] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Then it's simple. Go to a Brexit-fatigued electorate with no divorce agreement with rUK and no pre-nup with The EU and see what the outcome is. Independence. 2 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Geo Sq will, again, be awash with Union Flags. Threats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The same as it is for any other EU member.Don't bother calling indyref2. Rightly or wrongly England has fucked it for us all. Economics can't be won on that scenario over midterm. We're part of eu but only country with an integrated economy with England. Good luck selling a hard work border to Scots. Game over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, tirso said: Don't bother calling indyref2. Rightly or wrongly England has fucked it for us all. Economics can't be won on that scenario over midterm. We're part of eu but only one with an integrated economy with England. Are you drunk? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Are you drunk?Yeah we can win telling Scots there is a hard border for jobs on this island.I'm the drunk one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, tirso said: Yeah we can win telling Scots there is a hard border for jobs on this island. I'm the drunk one. Thought so. Who exactly is proposing a hard border? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Thought so. Who exactly is proposing a hard border?In the scenario of hard brexit? UK govt , Irish and eu Sorry edited to add. Your answer was shite and I'm an indy supporter. As well not bothering if that's our comeback. If there is a border; failing to see a way round it, Indy is fucked 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, tirso said: 3 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: Thought so. Who exactly is proposing a hard border? In the scenario of hard brexit? UK govt , Irish and eu Have you never heard of the Common Travel Area? Do you genuinely believe there won't be a rUK-EU trade agreement? Do you genuinely not know that immigration is a national competence and not an EU one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, tirso said: In the scenario of hard brexit? UK govt , Irish and eu Sorry edited to add. Your answer was shite and I'm an indy supporter. As well not bothering if that's our comeback. If there is a border; failing to see a way round it, Indy is fucked ^^^ completely pished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 [emoji23] Have you never heard of the Common Travel Area? Do you genuinely believe there won't be a rUK-EU trade agreement? Do you genuinely not know that immigration is a national competence and not an EU one?Holy shit. The common travel area. They've spent years and it was in their faces the whole time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 ^^^ completely pished. And? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Boris Johnson in his scants at the eu on Irish border: "have you never heard of the common travel area !"[emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, tirso said: Boris Johnson in his scants at the eu on Irish border: "have you never heard of the common travel area !" That is the future, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Then it's simple. Go to a Brexit-fatigued electorate with no divorce agreement with rUK and no pre-nup with The EU and see what the outcome is. Geo Sq will, again, be awash with Union Flags. I'm actually trying to help you here. Flung out of their high rises in a fit of rage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, tirso said: In the scenario of hard brexit? UK govt , Irish and eu Sorry edited to add. Your answer was shite and I'm an indy supporter. As well not bothering if that's our comeback. If there is a border; failing to see a way round it, Indy is fucked Thinking a way round a hard border with England should probably be the number one priority for the independence movement. It's a disaster waiting to happen for the campaign. The prospect of Sturgeon sounding like Rees Mogg and Johnson, saying that non existent technology will solve the problem will not be a good look. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Don't bother calling indyref2. Rightly or wrongly England has fucked it for us all. Economics can't be won on that scenario over midterm. We're part of eu but only country with an integrated economy with England. Good luck selling a hard work border to Scots. Game over. What is the issue with a hard border? I imagine if we’re travelling to England for a holiday we’ll need to have our passport inspected coming/going, and vice versa, but what’s the big deal in your opinion? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 11 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: to stop them taking Presbyterian soup One of the best things I've ever seen on here, outstandingly tragic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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