When will indyref2 happen?

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

35 minutes ago, KingRocketman II said:

have mentioned this before but SNP GCC is hugely frustrating. There is nothing radical or sweeping about what they do and it would be great for a new council, after years of neglect under Labour, would really make their mark by illustrating how the city is under new management and oversight. Regularised bus service, joined up transport systems and ticketing, the snail's pace roll out of the cycle lanes and endless consultations on the avenue schemes etc etc. All hugely frustrating and under-pinned by the failure to better balance basic services such as bin collection/street cleaning in the face of Westminster cuts passed on by the SG, as well as a legacy of financial mismanagement inherited from the complete waste of space that was Labour GCC. 

However in saying that, the number of regeneration projects across the city under SNP is quite something. All these are essentially on brownfield or derelict sites that Labour seemed happy to leave there for their 40 odd years when in power. Whereas under SNP we have seen Custom House/Clyde St, Merchant City/Selfridges, MODA, Barclays/Tradeston, JP Morgan/What Everys, etc etc all get approval and work start. May not be the designs we all want but this has been hugely impressive and the new skyline of the city and the disappearing brownfield sites in a post Brexit and post Covid world is a real achievement. Using BHS on Sauchiehall St as an example of neglect in that Express article does illustrate they are clutching at straws if one of their arguments is regeneration (though due to the School of Arts fire Sauchiehall St is emerging as a real priority for (re) redevelopment). 

Initial outlays in investment would spark a massive return for Glasgow if done differently. The ‘avenues’ stuff doesnt do anything really, Sauchiehall street is now almost deadlocked on a weekend night and all its done is give people more room for pavement dancing. 

[scottsdad]

6 hours ago, Suspect Device said:

I know it's a clickbait opinion piece in the fucking Express, but I would love to see this happen. It would boost the independence campaign no end.

Glasgow has failed: the UK Government should step in to save Scotland's largest city - Ben Borland - Scottish Daily Express

And I'm not even sure why the twat thinks that the UK government would be any better at running Glasgow given how shit they are running the country.

 

The article talks about Glasgow's deficit of £120 million.

Edinburgh has a deficit of around £80 million.

Aberdeen about £30 million.

Nothing to do with SNP/Independence. All to do with an economy going down the tubes, less cash coming in, more going out all compounded by the built-in risk costs for future years, brought to you by the Tories mini-budget.

[Clown Job]

 

But you know…..

[Highlandmagar]

3 hours ago, Clown Job said:

 

But you know…..

What are you trying to say? Spit it out man.

[Antlion]

Shame to miss this one.

 

[101]

I'm not sure when the next white paper is coming out to address energy but electricity has to be free in an Indy Scotland with a small connection fee like with water but comparing £200/£300 a year to the farce on going now, especially for businesses would be an incredible vote winner and is realistic.

[Dawson Park Boy]

6 hours ago, Highlandmagar said:

What are you trying to say? Spit it out man.

Exactly!

This guy has nothing better to do with his life.

Very sad.

[Kenneth840]

On 30/10/2022 at 09:16, renton said:

Wasn't witty the first time you peddled that line.

Wasn't meant to be in the first place. 

[Clown Job]

Next week

 

[Salt n Vinegar]

5 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Next week

 

Damn. I was hoping to buy my barricade material, torches and pitchforks in the January sales... 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Cant help but think they are going to find for the UK government. But its a very interesting constitutional question, what is the actual process? And how can Scotland expect to be treated fairly by a UK government it didnt vote for. 

[SweeperDee]

Cant help but think they are going to find for the UK government. But its a very interesting constitutional question, what is the actual process? And how can Scotland expect to be treated fairly by a UK government it didnt vote for. 

Of course they will rule against; but it’ll just highlight this isn’t a union of equals, nor is there consent involved. It’s a union of control. That’s the real kicker that no-one can really defend.

[Clown Job]

On 03/11/2022 at 23:49, Clown Job said:

 

But you know…..

Another one for the list 

 

[williemillersmoustache]

The worst outcome is that they choose not to make a decision. It will just delay matters further.

Of course ruling that there is no mechanism for Scotland to choose independence isn't great either but, a definitive legal ruling that the union is nothing of the sort and instead a constitutional prison, isn't going to help/will be disastrous for No in the medium to long term.

[steelmen]

3 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

The worst outcome is that they choose not to make a decision. It will just delay matters further.

Of course ruling that there is no mechanism for Scotland to choose independence isn't great either but, a definitive legal ruling that the union is nothing of the sort and instead a constitutional prison, isn't going to help/will be disastrous for No in the medium to long term.

This is the path i think they will go down. They will agree with the UK government that due process hasn't been followed and force the SG, or and MSP, to ignore the Lord Advocates advice and bring forth a bill and then we get to go through it all again.

[SandyCromarty]

Excellent tory putdown of Farmer Jack at Scottish Questions yesterday when she said, 'Baron Jack repeatedly talks about democracy when he's about to join the unelected house of lords'.

Fuckin excellent!

[williemillersmoustache]

1 hour ago, steelmen said:

This is the path i think they will go down. They will agree with the UK government that due process hasn't been followed and force the SG, or and MSP, to ignore the Lord Advocates advice and bring forth a bill and then we get to go through it all again.

It's at least a more likely outcome but, they could have come to that decision pre hearing and I did at least here the chairman give sympathy for the positon of the LA'S position and reasons for referral. 

[renton]

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenational.scot%2Fpolitics%2F23136893.yes-no-maybe--supreme-court-ruling-will-play%2F

Andrew Tickell gives up update on the range of answers we might expect tomorrow. 

Given how quickly the court has come to its decision, it certainly doesn't seem like there was a whole lot of wrangling of minority opinions on the subject.

Not expecting much, tbh.

[Dan Steele]

I'm all for an independent Scotland but the sub-ed that let this headline lead for the Supreme Court ruling and its importance for the way ahead will be asked to leave on independence. Why not just put a big capital A instead of It's? "It's huge day" ffs. 

[Billy Jean King]

I'm all for an independent Scotland but the sub-ed that let this headline lead for the Supreme Court ruling and its importance for the way ahead will be asked to leave on independence. Why not just put a big capital A instead of It's? "It's huge day" ffs. 

Given the magnitude of the announcement it's amazing that the National is the only front page main headline.