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Another example of the endless conflation of 'UK' and 'England' which seems an almost automatic occurrence in the brains of anti-Indi people. For all he knows I might just want to get the f**k away from the Welsh, or the bampots in the DUP. Maybe he should ask EnglishScotsForYes what motivates them?

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10 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said:

Ive not heard of Richard Murphy before but its interesting points he raises. Is there anywhere where he has detailed what he thinks should happen?

He was very big for the independence movement in 2014.

If he doesn’t like the plans, there must be a big problem.

I would think this story will run.

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11 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Yeah, there's definitely loads of 2014 Yes voters who will vote No next time around.  

For example me, I voted Yes in 2014, but with Brexit, The Tories being fucking useless, lying cunts and the North of England falling and bowing to their racist overtones, which see Scotland stuck with them, I'm definitely voting No next time.

Labour too, they look really handy.  #BetterTogether

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46 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Yeah, there's definitely loads of 2014 Yes voters who will vote No next time around.  

I voted Yes in 2014 but by putting little union jacks on the boxes of vaccines and seizing the opportunity created by the worst public health crisis in 100 years to empty the treasury into their own back pockets for PPE that didn't work and definitely cost the lives of patients as well as nurses and doctors has made me see in vivid red white and blue technicolour just how wrong I was. 

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3 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

He was very big for the independence movement in 2014.

If he doesn’t like the plans, there must be a big problem.

I would think this story will run.

Where are you getting that from? He's a tax accountant from Norfolk, currently lecturing in Sheffield, I don't know if he's ever been to Scotland. His main beef is poor collection of data on tax receipts, profit and earnings so you can't tell where money is coming from and going to, he advised Corbyn on it re tax evasion and avoidance. The Scottish angle is it's difficult to tell what money and assets belong to Scotland because the data isn't collected and differentiated properly. 

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Just now, BudBudBud said:

I'd say so.

With so much turmoil in the world, many just don't want to think about it.

A lot of independence voters realise they had their chance in 2014.  People just want to get on with their lives, and the momentum within the Independence movement has all but disappeared.  Yestival was nothing more than a damp squib.

People can only focus on the constitution for so long before they get bored and hardly anyone is even talking about this alleged referendum in just over a years time.

Brexit makes the case for independence even weaker, as getting into the EU would be a highly lengthly, complicated state of affairs with all sorts of questions of currency, the border, the debt etc.  This would be coupled with all the complexities of splitting off in the first place.  Scexit and Eujoin at once?  It would make Brexit look like a walk in the park.

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17 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Too wee, too poor 

 

Another unelected list tory MSP talking shite and childishly scaremongering.

How would an Independent Scotland have coped with Covid?

Well Denmark is a prosperous and thriving country with a similar population as Scotland and weathered the Covid crisis with a relatively low rate of infection and death.

Check the following site; The Covid-19 pandemic in Denmark: Big lessons from a small country - PMC (nih.gov)

Boris Johnson continually made a big deal about his tory governments response to Covid, his response was no different from most other western countries.

What Johnson repeatedly always avoids is the fraudulent awards of business for PPE supplies which was not put out to competetive tender, and then Hancock refused to publish details of the contracts awarded.

 

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Well, what's convinced me of the unionist case is the growing list of small European countries forming an orderly queue to leave the EU and come under the rule of Westminster.  Y'know, like errr... em.... no, don't rush me, give me a minute... 

😂

Seriously... if Scotland was independent at the moment, even the most ardent, forelock tugging, union Jack hugging, Daily Mail or Express reading, "I know my place" chanting founder members of the Jacob Rees-Mogg fan club wouldn't be suggesting that we team up with and agree to be governed by Westminster.  Enough. 

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A lot of independence voters realise they had their chance in 2014.  People just want to get on with their lives, and the momentum within the Independence movement has all but disappeared. 


This is just absolute rubbish. “You voting Yes again mate? Nah man, we had our chance in 2014.”

Said no one ever.
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13 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

 


This is just absolute rubbish. “You voting Yes again mate? Nah man, we had our chance in 2014.”

Said no one ever.

 

I think he genuinely believes it.  Unionists are mental.

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