GiGi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Popcorn oot. This thread will be fun for the next few months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skelpit Lug Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Solomon would be better back down his mine........Better Together are getting the gang together again Solomon Cuthbertson is a third year politics student at Edinburgh University. "Back in 2014 I did support independence, but in the last few years I found myself drifting more towards wanting to stay in the UK," he says. "Looking at the challenges that we face with economics, it would make families poorer and right now with the cost living crisis I don't think that's something I can get behind," he adds. Solomon also has concerns about pensions and the pound. "If we leave the UK we lose any control that we have over the currency that will be used... and then if we join in the euro, it's the European Central Bank that's going to have all the power." Solomon, who chairs Scottish Labour Students, says the answer to the current economic turmoil lies at Westminster. "I don't think because we have a horrific Tory government that has done all the things it has and this led this economic disruption that we should look at leaving the UK," he says. Pensions Currency EU Don't leave Scottish Labour Bingo! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Solomon would be better back down his mine........Better Together are getting the gang together again Solomon Cuthbertson is a third year politics student at Edinburgh University. "Back in 2014 I did support independence, but in the last few years I found myself drifting more towards wanting to stay in the UK," he says. "Looking at the challenges that we face with economics, it would make families poorer and right now with the cost living crisis I don't think that's something I can get behind," he adds. Solomon also has concerns about pensions and the pound. "If we leave the UK we lose any control that we have over the currency that will be used... and then if we join in the euro, it's the European Central Bank that's going to have all the power." Solomon, who chairs Scottish Labour Students, says the answer to the current economic turmoil lies at Westminster. "I don't think because we have a horrific Tory government that has done all the things it has and this led this economic disruption that we should look at leaving the UK," he says. “We lose any control we have over the currency that will be used”. Well seeing Cuthbert isn’t a maths student. If I have zero apples in my pocket and I lose zero apples, how many apples have I lost? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Brexit has shown that any big change has to have a good plan for what happens after and a plan that is ready for every eventuality. In saying that though it would be impossible to lose an indy2 vote if it happened tomorrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Labour: Independence would be Brexit turbocharged also Labour: We can make Brexit work 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 15/10/2022 at 13:44, ICTJohnboy said: Given that we've just seen what a WM. Govt can do with the pound (and interest rates) would it not make more sense for a Scottish Govt to adopt the Euro as a matter of some urgency? You cannot 'adopt' the official Euro currency unless you are an EU member and have obviously satisfied the Copenhagen Criteria for membership. A Scottish pound would be an interim currency until we joined the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Labour: Independence would be Brexit turbocharged also Labour: We can make Brexit work No shame whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) On 15/10/2022 at 16:17, Kenneth840 said: Yes, but where is the money going? If I am not mistaken, Scotland will need its own currency to apply for EU membership. Correct and that's been outlined by Nicola today, an Independent Scotland would also have to demostrate fiscal prudence and a thriving market economy before being accepted by the EU, it's all in teh Copenahgen Criteria. If the likes of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Slovakia and Slovenia etc with little Russian investment prior totheir Independence can gain membership then Scotland with a GDP of 160 Billion (excluding oil), and massive natural resources should waltz into the EU. The average EU acceptance time for the countries mentioned was circa 6 years, with our resources and the chance for the EU to piss on Brexit I would think our wait would be half that. Edited October 17, 2022 by SandyCromarty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I'll decide how to vote if and when I learn how an independent Scotland would impact on the TV rights of the Barclays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Too wee, too poor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Two things - The UK evidently couldn't 'afford' a furlough scheme either, since it's basically ruined itself borrowing to pay for it Has Kerr bothered his arse to check whether other, similarly sized European nations to Scotland simply went 'nope, you're all just going to have to go to work because we can't afford to put you on furlough'? I suspect not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Too wee, too poor Desperate stuff from the list MSP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) The SNP should come out tonight with a statement that if the Tories change leadership again without a GE, that they will go ahead and hold an indy2 ref asap Nows the time to stick the boot in Edited October 17, 2022 by BigDoddyKane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 He is usually pro independence so I’d say this is pretty concerning for yes. I have been questioning the lack of financial info from the snp and this confirms it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Magic non existent technology to monitor the passage of goods at the England Scotland border. Heard that somewhere before.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, Aufc said: He is usually pro independence so I’d say this is pretty concerning for yes. I have been questioning the lack of financial info from the snp and this confirms it He is in favour of independence. He is completely correct in his comments on today's events. It's yet another bodge. We need more than hot air at this juncture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Ive not heard of Richard Murphy before but its interesting points he raises. Is there anywhere where he has detailed what he thinks should happen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: Ive not heard of Richard Murphy before but its interesting points he raises. Is there anywhere where he has detailed what he thinks should happen? Google his tax research blog. Lots of good info and ideas. An initial period of short term Sterlingisation is necessary....but at this stage we should have a timescale and firm plans for currency launch. Today was more wind and [email protected] I am afraid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I remember Smart when he was in Scottish Labour Action - the nationalist wing of SLab.Bob McLean will be birling in his grave at this shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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