Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Not quite, my ever dehydrated friend. The ships are being built in Poland, by Polish workers. Perhaps if you had read to the end of the article you linked to, you would have worked that out for yourself.Holy f**k that's idiotic, even by his well-established lowly standards [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 04/03/2022 at 16:00, GTG_03 said: Not really, are the EU going to say "sorry Scotland you're not being invaded therefore you're not getting in." This invasion should bring Europe closer and leave the UK looking more and more isolated. It doesn't have to be that way. The Ukraine invasion will make NATO more determined to keep the nukes on the Clyde. Independence for Scotland won't be happening anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 We could ride this out and be independent under a new Soviet Union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On 04/03/2022 at 16:22, monthefife said: Independence hasn't been achieved yet. What were you expecting? A referendum bill is expected to come through parliament sometime in April and should we vote Yes, an economic plan will be revisited as with many other things. You are believing in fairy tales if you believe an economic plan for an Independent Scotland is happening anytime soon. You have the evidence at your hand with the Scottish Governments 10 year devolution plan. Add into that the current need for a strong NATO force, its just not happening. Thanks Vlad you fucking murderous p***k. The 2023 ref was never happening anyway, but the current war gives the Snp another perfect excuse not to hold a referendum. Edited March 5, 2022 by Kenneth840 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 The Ukraine invasion will make NATO more determined to keep the nukes on the Clyde. Independence for Scotland won't be happening anytime soon. Where would your preferred UDI leave us in this situation ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 You are believing in fairy tales if you believe an economic plan for an Independent Scotland is happening anytime soon. You have the evidence at your hand with the Scottish Governments 10 year devolution plan. Add into that the current need for a strong NATO force, its just not happening. Thanks Vlad you fucking murderous p***k. The 2023 ref was never happening anyway, but the current war gives the Snp another perfect excuse not to hold a referendum. Spot on. The SNP don’t want a referendum, they used COVID as an excuse before and now they’ll use this war as an excuse.It’s over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 SNP emailed me yesterday re my membership renewal. I've asked a few questions re. referendum commitments which I would like answers for...otherwise I won't be renewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ian-blackford-hints-at-possible-delay-to-snps-indyref2-plans-3598939 Tick tock... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Blackford smartly getting headlines for coming out against Trident when the actual story is him taking a referendum off the table in this Parliament. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goomba Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It’s been obvious from the start that no 2nd referendum will take place for the following reasons: -Scots don’t want one. -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation. -There’s been no sustainable evidence of support for the breakup of the country. -The Tories always run on the promise of not holding one, and they are the party of government. -The devolved administration does not have the power to dictate a referendum. The latest revelation is only the latest piece of evidence in a long list of obvious indicators as to the SNP’s apathy towards holding another referendum they know they wouldn’t win. As a Yoon, my gut feeling is that the SNP are a safe pair of hands for the Union. I can only hope Nats continue to choose them over Alba. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It’s been obvious from the start that no 2nd referendum will take place for the following reasons: -Rangers don’t want one. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Goomba said: It’s been obvious from the start that no 2nd referendum will take place for the following reasons: -Scots don’t want one. -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation. -There’s been no sustainable evidence of support for the breakup of the country. -The Tories always run on the promise of not holding one, and they are the party of government. -The devolved administration does not have the power to dictate a referendum. The latest revelation is only the latest piece of evidence in a long list of obvious indicators as to the SNP’s apathy towards holding another referendum they know they wouldn’t win. As a Yoon, my gut feeling is that the SNP are a safe pair of hands for the Union. I can only hope Nats continue to choose them over Alba. BINGO!!! (and nice to see an injection of fresh thinking and terminology enter into the debate) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Goomba said: It’s been obvious from the start that no 2nd referendum will take place for the following reasons: -Scots don’t want one. -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation. -There’s been no sustainable evidence of support for the breakup of the country. -The Tories always run on the promise of not holding one, and they are the party of government. -The devolved administration does not have the power to dictate a referendum. The latest revelation is only the latest piece of evidence in a long list of obvious indicators as to the SNP’s apathy towards holding another referendum they know they wouldn’t win. As a Yoon, my gut feeling is that the SNP are a safe pair of hands for the Union. I can only hope Nats continue to choose them over Alba. Oh dear! We appear to have another Yoon poster that states his own opinions as if they were facts. Let's go through this misinformation line by line -Scots don’t want one. A majority of Scots voters (not "Scots") want a referendum within the next 5 years. The smallest poll majority in 2021 was 3% and the largest 10% Polling details -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation. That phrase doesn't appear in the Edinburgh Agreement. Anyway, a political generation is defined as 7 years in the Good Friday Agreement. Why should a generation be defined differently in different parts of the UK? -There’s been no sustainable evidence of support for the breakup of the country. The most recent polling (December 2021) suggests that yes & no are tied. when don't knows are excluded. The largest lead held by either side since the last Holyrood election was 9% for yes and only 6% for no Link - scroll down to first table -The Tories always run on the promise of not holding one, and they are the party of government. The Tories are the party of Government in the UK, not Scotland. If the Union is a union of equals, the decision whether to leave is a matter fot the voters in the area that wants to leave. Allowing rUK MP's to decide the status of any specific part of the UK smacks of colonialism, rather tha a union of equals -The devolved administration does not have the power to dictate a referendum. This has not been tested in court. It's only an opinion. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Goomba said: -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation.. There is no legal definition of "a generation". Roon ye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlo Stanfield Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 30/08/2019 at 17:29, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: A generation is 5 years, as this was the length of time it took Sir Reginald Generation, after which it is named, to come up with the concept back in 1879. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFD Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 We should probably run a book on how long it'll take for these entirely new posters to get themselves cancelhammered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ah, another shite alias from perma-loser Stormzy. Great stuff [emoji23] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Goomba said: It’s been obvious from the start that no 2nd referendum will take place for the following reasons: -Scots don’t want one. -2014 was supposed to be once in a generation. -There’s been no sustainable evidence of support for the breakup of the country. -The Tories always run on the promise of not holding one, and they are the party of government. -The devolved administration does not have the power to dictate a referendum. The latest revelation is only the latest piece of evidence in a long list of obvious indicators as to the SNP’s apathy towards holding another referendum they know they wouldn’t win. As a Yoon, my gut feeling is that the SNP are a safe pair of hands for the Union. I can only hope Nats continue to choose them over Alba. Sevco Scotland ( name approval request to......the The Rangers plc.....est. 2012...... approved.) You let a great Scottish team die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yoons will still be spilling this once in a generation nonsense in 2035 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yoons will still be spilling this once in a generation nonsense in 2035And this thread will still be going then [emoji16] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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