Scott Steiner Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: And given the auto-signature on his posts, could you also add pretentious, self-conceited, and vainglorious? That's some vocabulary you've got going on there, Mr Soapington. When I first signed up, many thought I was the reincarnation of various ex-posters, so got very angry and abusive. The only way to achieve any sort of normality was to shove a bunch of them on ignore. I'm hoping a lot of them will have changed their tune after the amnesty, as it's now widely recognised that I'm not actually 'Stormzy'. Since I don't converse with the EEIL-dwellers, then the best way for me to get the message out as to their status is simply updating my signature. Antlion and WhiteRoseKillie were by far the most abusive, so they'll probably remain on even after the amnesty. I've still to make up my mind for certain on that pair. Seriously, if people act reasonably to me then I do the same back, no matter their view. It's not difficult. Edited December 29, 2021 by Scott Steiner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said: That's some vocabulary you've got going on there, Mr Soapington. When I first signed up, many thought I was the reincarnation of various ex-posters, so got very angry and abusive. The only way to achieve any sort of normality was to shove a bunch of them on ignore. I'm hoping a lot of them will have changed their tune after the amnesty, as it's now widely recognised that I'm not actually 'Stormzy'. Since I don't converse with the EEIL-dwellers, then the best way for me to get the message out as to their status is simply updating my signature. Antlion and WhiteRoseKillie were by far the most abusive, so they'll probably remain on even after the amnesty. I've still to make up my mind for certain on that pair. Seriously, if people act reasonably to me then I do the same back, no matter their view. It's not difficult. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Antlion said: I see you’ve added annoying to tedious in your repertoire. The joys. Hardly a recent addition to the undoubted tedium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Ffs stop quoting the troll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ffs stop quoting the troll. Absolutely. It's very annoying when I see his posts. He's on the EEIL for a reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: Absolutely. Us Yoons realise that the devolved assembly does not have the power to decide referendums, so will indeed boycott to delegitimise any such charade. Another referendum on something so major so soon would be ridiculous. The only way a referendum on partition can take place is if parliament allows it. This should not happen in the forseeable future. The sense of entitlement from many Nats is through the roof. You shouldn't just get to keep trying until you get the answer you want. So the current britnat position appears to be that there is no.... and there should not be..... any democratic way for the people of Scotland to take back their independence without the consent of another nations parliament. Outstanding! Such political philosophy was very popular in the 19th and first half of the 20th centuries I understand. Didn't turn out too well in fairness. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: So the current britnat position appears to be that there is no.... and there should not be..... any democratic way for the people of Scotland to take back their independence without the consent of another nations parliament. Outstanding! Such political philosophy was very popular in the 19th and first half of the 20th centuries I understand. Didn't turn out too well in fairness. That's certainly not my position, and I doubt it's the britnat position either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: That's certainly not my position, and I doubt it's the britnat position either. It clearly is. There is a very real fear of democracy amongst the britnat element. Not healthy tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: It clearly is. There is a very real fear of democracy amongst the britnat element. Not healthy tbh. Honestly, the claims you make are not my position. I doubt they are those of britnats either. Where did you get them from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: Not at all. I believe this only applies to a border poll for Northern Ireland, and even then it's only if there's public support for one over a sustainable period. No. Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: Absolutely. Us Yoons realise that the devolved assembly does not have the power to decide referendums, so will indeed boycott to delegitimise any such charade. Another referendum on something so major so soon would be ridiculous. The only way a referendum on partition can take place is if parliament allows it. This should not happen in the forseeable future. The sense of entitlement from many Nats is through the roof. You shouldn't just get to keep trying until you get the answer you want. You posted this earlier. It sums up the britnat position. Preventing democracy instead of arguing for the union ain't gonnae end well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said: You posted this earlier. It sums up the britnat position. Preventing democracy instead of arguing for the union ain't gonnae end well. That is indeed my position, but I'm afraid it does include anything about another country's parliament. Nor did I say anything about preventing democracy. It seems you're making things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Given the settled status of the GFA in UK law it might be of note that had the Scottish government held a referendum within 7 years it may have been judged illegal by a court. Setting for 2023 renders that moot. It may well strengthen the case for holding such a border poll in Scotland with the UK government unable to get a judgement of illegality from the court. After all which laws is it transgressing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Here was me thinking I was reading the 423rd cycle of stormzy bombarding the politics forum with obvious trolling then going down the ‘why can’t you just be nice to me’ path when he’s told to f**k off. Thankfully though, he’s confirmed he’s not actually stormzy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 29/12/2021 at 23:55, Zern said: Given the settled status of the GFA in UK law it might be of note that had the Scottish government held a referendum within 7 years it may have been judged illegal by a court. Setting for 2023 renders that moot. It may well strengthen the case for holding such a border poll in Scotland with the UK government unable to get a judgement of illegality from the court. After all which laws is it transgressing? I don't see what the GFA has to do with Scotland though? It was an NI only agreement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Here was me thinking I was reading the 423rd cycle of stormzy bombarding the politics forum with obvious trolling then going down the ‘why can’t you just be nice to me’ path when he’s told to f**k off. Thankfully though, he’s confirmed he’s not actually stormzy. I'm afraid there's nothing troll-like in disagreeing with people. Continue to be nasty if you want. I can't tell you how to live your life. The Stormzy thing really doesn't bother me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said: I'm afraid there's nothing troll-like in disagreeing with people. Continue to be nasty if you want. I can't tell you how to live your life. The Stormzy thing really doesn't bother me. Enjoy your day, pal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Enjoy your day, pal. Cheers bud, you too and have a good time for the bells. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott Steiner said: I don't see what the GFA has to do with Scotland though? It was an NI only agreement. One wonders why law that applies to a border poll in one part of the UK cannot be applied to the issue of a border poll in another part of the uk. One nation, one people... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Zern said: One wonders why law that applies to a border poll in one part of the UK cannot be applied to the issue of a border poll in another part of the uk. One nation, one people... It was a deal worked out Northern Ireland, so there'd be no logical or lawful reason for it to apply to our situation too. They can only have a border poll over there if there's evidence of public support for a United Ireland, over a sustainable period. We don't have that over there, and we don't have public support for Scottish Separation either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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