Ira Gaines Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I'm not entirely buying it's a new Pep, but I didn't think he would do multiple accounts at the same time before and I was 100% wrong on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, BFTD said: We should have a poll to decide which other minorities are acceptable to abandon in the name of, erm, a fairer and freer Scotland. I'm sure there are some strange folk who could be brought to the cause of independence if we agreed to roll back gay rights, for example. I need to champion the rights of lovers of secondary 24 villains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: @Tynierose, @Cardinal Richelieu, IP check that this lad isn't the last in a long line of Pep aliases? If he isn't I will shut up. Nope its a new poster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I don’t think there is any true threat to equality for trans people in Scotland. I don’t think that really strong views exist other than the extremists and demagogues on both sides of the debate who are only in it for the buzz of being in something. there is obviously a compromise position where the rights of trans people can be strengthened and respected in a way that doesn’t detriment the rights of other groups but like most things when you have zealots involved, dogma gets in the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Just now, Tynierose said: Nope its a new poster. Fairy nuff, astonishing that they hate transgender people & those pesky Nats mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Nope its a new poster. Not going to lie to lie though Tynie, I suspect a VPN is being used to fool you all, he is too close to the template, he was far too quick to hate transgender people & Nicola. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: Fairy nuff, astonishing that they hate transgender people & those pesky Nats mind. I’m a lifelong nationalist who has voted for the SNP in every election since 2005. I have absolutely no issue whatsoever with trans people. You were wrong about me being “Pep” and you’re wrong to try to smear me now. You could have started normal engagement by, if not apologising for your false accusation, at least acknowledging it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Amusing reading cultists that buy into nonsense like self-id insisting that every poster that disagrees with them is this "Pepp" person. It might very well be. But, they also might identify as someone else now. Deal with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Perkin Flump said: Not going to lie to lie though Tynie, I suspect a VPN is being used to fool you all, he is too close to the template, he was far too quick to hate transgender people & Nicola. Get a grip!!! How many VPNs do you know that ping to the south of Scotland? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Perkin Flump said: Not going to lie to lie though Tynie, I suspect a VPN is being used to fool you all, he is too close to the template, he was far too quick to hate transgender people & Nicola. Always wonder about that when people start talking about checking IPs and banning based on such. It's been a very long time since that would be any hindrance to even a slightly determined poster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Just now, BFTD said: Always wonder about that when people start talking about checking IPs and banning based on such. It's been a very long time since that would be any hindrance to even a slightly determined poster. Tynierose, can you check Perkin Flumps IP address for me please and see if he’s using a VPN? Assuming that’s how it works, we can all just issue these kinds of demands to moderators. Also, if you could please confirm that your comments were not directed to me but rather a general point. I have no issue with trans people. Whatsoever. I should not have to make that point again. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tynierose said: This may astonish you old boy but there are unfortunately plenty of people with that view. We cannot ban people with that view, it takes education and time for attitudes to change just like it changed slowly over the years with homosexuality etc. Thankfully the majority of society no longer bat an eyelid regarding homosexuality despite a history of being victimised and criminalised not so long ago. No doubt we will get there eventually with transgender. Banning people won't help, let them post, challenge the post and inform them and re educate. Education and raising awareness is the way to change attitudes, bans don't work. I like your optimism, but I think you're massively underestimating the number of people who'd happily scapegoat homosexuals again if they felt free to do so. Not that I'm disagreeing with your stance; I presume the idea is that if the monitoring other people's genitals is an important topic for you to discuss on a Scottish football forum, fire away, but if you feel the need to bring it up in every fucking thread, get in the fucking sea with your other aliases? Edit: get the fucking wine drank and get back on here for a drunken banhammer session forthwith Edited June 5, 2021 by BFTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tynierose said: They were not directed at you. Perkin isn't using an IP Thankyou, I have wine to drink. Goodnight. Excellent, enjoy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thorongil said: Tynierose, can you check Perkin Flumps IP address for me please and see if he’s using a VPN? Before you do mine, sometimes I like to roleplay as a lonely Swedish goatherd. There's nothing wrong with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, Thorongil said: I’m a lifelong nationalist who has voted for the SNP in every election since 2005. I have absolutely no issue whatsoever with trans people. You were wrong about me being “Pep” and you’re wrong to try to smear me now. You could have started normal engagement by, if not apologising for your false accusation, at least acknowledging it. "Smear me" ffs calm down and get over yourself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, thisal said: "Smear me" ffs calm down and get over yourself. Ok, I will mister!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorongil said: Ok, I will mister!!! It's miss to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Tynierose said: This may astonish you old boy but there are plenty of people with that view. We cannot ban people with that view, it takes education and time for attitudes to change just like it changed slowly over the years with homosexuality etc. Thankfully the majority of society no longer bat an eyelid regarding homosexuality despite a history of being victimised and criminalised not so long ago. No doubt we will get there eventually with transgender. Banning people won't help, let them post, challenge the post and inform them and re educate. Education and raising awareness is the way to change attitudes, bans don't work. Of course, never stopped you lot allowing folk to be victimised did it? How about other forms of bigotry like xenophobia? Fancy dealing with that? Don't deal us this absolute shite. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Munoz is still on here right? That's one example off my head. tree house tam still posts here right? Two people I've reported and I still see their posts. I was told by Thundermonkey about "zero tolerance" yet Kincardine goes "jock" central constantly and you allow it. How far does Dawson Park Boy have to go to actually get banned? But keep your soft touch on trolls going by all means. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Meanwhile (ahem...) I see on tonight's Sky news press preview that, according to the Express, the politically neutral Royal Family are to send the possibly future King Billy and his missus to spend more time Scotland to help save the union. Have these two not suffered enough? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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