Londonwell Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Then we're fucked anyway and in exactly the same position that we are in right now, so there's no reason not to try, they have literally nothing to lose. The worst case scenario we find ourselves in exactly the position we are in right now. And that's NS has achieved for us, absolutely f**k all, NI got a bespoke deal, Gibraltar got a bespoke deal, Scotland got nothing. And we're the place all studies show will be hit hardest by Brexit, we gave her a stronger mandate with a higher level of support than any other leader in the UK, and she got us nothing, not one thing at all. We got bent over and reamed stupid, and NS did nothing whatsoever about it. She couldn't even achieve what is written in stone in the GFA in NI that they can have a referendum every seven years, she has managed to achieve 41 years for us so well done there eh, looking forward to that in 2055. No see you’re exactly wrong. If the advice is don’t go there, then guess what you don’t go there. If you do and lose the court battle it’s a hammer blow to the cause. You find another way. Also, Independence is polling higher than ever before under NS. For the first time in all our lives it seems to be the majority view of the country. To say NS has achieved nothing is obviously wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said: If Joanna Cherry QC is not suitably qualified to know the "ins and outs", who is? You hire a lawyer to advice you about the law, not to run things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Then we're fucked anyway and in exactly the same position that we are in right now, so there's no reason not to try, they have literally nothing to lose. The worst case scenario we find ourselves in exactly the position we are in right now. And that's NS has achieved for us, absolutely f**k all, NI got a bespoke deal, Gibraltar got a bespoke deal, Scotland got nothing. And we're the place all studies show will be hit hardest by Brexit, we gave her a stronger mandate with a higher level of support than any other leader in the UK, and she got us nothing, not one thing at all. We got bent over and reamed stupid, and NS did nothing whatsoever about it. She couldn't even achieve what is written in stone in the GFA in NI that they can have a referendum every seven years, she has managed to achieve 41 years for us so well done there eh, looking forward to that in 2055. ^^^ heading for another meltdown. I wonder what his user name will be after the inevitable forthcoming ban. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 5 years ago polls were not in favour of independence. Quite they've only just got consistently over 50%. Call one now in the middle of Covid and see that number plunge. Put a Cherry on top and forget about it for 20 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Sturgeon - You have a chance. Salmond - No chance. Cherry - Really no chance. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Can gay people not be bigots? Better tell Milo Yianoppolous that he’s in the clear. Or QCs. It's a wonder we spent so long trying to get our rights acknowledged what with the top minds of the legal profession unquestioningly being on our side all this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Stinky Bone said: I accept that he walked away from court an innocent man. Are you capable of answering the question or are you going to be deliberately reductive to avoid doing that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Quite they've only just got consistently over 50%. Call one now in the middle of Covid and see that number plunge. Put a Cherry on top and forget about it for 20 years. Nice use of 'Cherry on top' 9 on 10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Stinky Bone said: Are you and NTP asking the same question here? If so, please ask it in alien terms, because I haven't got a fucking clue what you are speaking about, and you all claim to be socialists. I’ll try then. Do you think that even if something isn’t necessarily a criminal act, it can still be unacceptable? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Sturgeon - You have a chance. Salmond - No chance. Cherry - Really no chance. First and probably only time I'll agree with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I accept that he walked away from court an innocent man. You didn't answer the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: You've taken a definite distrust for trans people without having met one, it's a fair question. You have no idea what that scum thinks. He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are. I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You have no idea what that scum thinks. He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are. I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts. I tend to see him more as someone who believes what he says, but takes it to the utmost extremes to get the attention that you refer to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said: So how long was his sentence then? Don't be a pedantic arsehole, he walked from court a free man. If you cant get that important detail right, don't expect to be taken seriously. Just to be clear, nobody is found innocent in a Scottish criminal trial. At best they are found not guilty, which means the prosecution haven't proven their case beyond reasonable doubt. The jury could have regarded the defendant as pure as the driven snow and the victim of calumnious and scurrilous allegations; at the other end they could have regarded the defendant as dodgy as fk but the prosecution were just short of the evidence needed to make them sure. There are many criminal trials in which the jury believe there's a more than 50% chance the defendant is guilty, but that's not enough in a criminal trial. Salmond did indeed walk from court a free man, but everyone is entitled to form their own view of the behaviour that he admitted under oath and they can give whatever weight they like to the evidence of the witnesses. In short, just because someone is found not guilty doesn't mean we all need to regard them as innocent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said: Yes. My wife farts in our bed and I don't think that's right. Ok, we’re agreed on that then Do you then accept that even though Salmond ‘walked away from court an innocent man’, this does not mean that his actions were necessarily acceptable, merely that they were not criminal? This is based on the point which Mixu has been making repeatedly that Salmond did not, to my understanding, deny that any of the stuff happened, merely that it was not criminal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said: It may be simple to you. Feigning an inability to understand even the most basic questions. You could get a job working as a columnist for any of the major broadsheets with that skill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You have no idea what that scum thinks. He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are. I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts. If anyone want to look at their conduct it's you. I don't agree with Pep, but he's entitled to his view and certainly doesn't go about calling people "Scum". So many people have tried to help you but you cannot help being so angry and abusive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 The Sturgeon Effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 58 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Sturgeon - You have a chance. Salmond - No chance. Cherry - Really no chance. First and probably only time I'll agree with you. I'm not actually a mentalist I just enjoy a good troll and give as good as I receive tbf. The only people I dislike on here are the people that actively red dot all my posts by habit. Think that's dwindled down to Antillion and the JCB fella. Just to make you feel guilty though I do considerably prefer Dundee to Dundee Utd.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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