When will indyref2 happen?

[Inanimate Carbon Rod 5,053]

Just now, Glen Sannox said:

Indeed, the EU have done such a very good job of listening to Italy throughout the pandemic! If you think the EU is a club of equals, then you are delusional. 
 

What would be the preferred currency when you are on the waiting list to join this club that...listens?

Italy has an equal veto in the EU, if it doesnt use it then that’s italy’s choice. 
The EU is absolutely where Scotland needs to be, not tied to a shower of dynastic public school boys playing at f**k the serfs. 

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1 minute ago, Glen Sannox said:

Indeed, the EU have done such a very good job of listening to Italy throughout the pandemic! If you think the EU is a club of equals, then you are delusional. 
 

What would be the preferred currency when you are on the waiting list to join this club that...listens?

Oh C'mon you're not coming up with that old currency chestnut which worked for you in 2014?

It won't be the pound as under EU rules when we want to join the EU we cannot be tied to the currency of a non EU country, so an interim currency would be introduced until such time we joined the euro.

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6 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Italy has an equal veto in the EU, if it doesnt use it then that’s italy’s choice. 
The EU is absolutely where Scotland needs to be, not tied to a shower of dynastic public school boys playing at f**k the serfs. 

Correct and then we can ask england to remove it's nuclear weaponry from the Clyde and remove Scotlands Central belt from first strike.

[Glen Sannox 64]

6 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Correct and then we can ask england to remove it's nuclear weaponry from the Clyde and remove Scotlands Central belt from first strike.

And remove all the jobs and protection at the same time.  That’s going to be a hard sell but anyway, you almost sold it in 2014 with no currency, so I suppose anything is possible. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod 5,053]

Just now, Glen Sannox said:

And remove all the jobs and protection at the same time.  That’s going to be a hard sell but anyway, you almost sold it in 2014 with no currency, so I suppose anything is possible. 

Jobs cannot be used to justify something that is morally abhorrent. Auschwitz employed people, should that have been used as an argument to have kept it open?

[Stellaboz 5,897]

Was good for the railways to be fair. 

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14 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

And remove all the jobs and protection at the same time.  That’s going to be a hard sell but anyway, you almost sold it in 2014 with no currency, so I suppose anything is possible. 

Faslane will revert to a normal Scottish Naval base as outlined already by Nicola Sturgeon, all jobs will be retained where applicable.

Edited November 10, 2020 by SandyCromarty

[DeeTillEhDeh 6,147]

So their latest wheeze is a double referendum - one on the principle and one on the "detail".

 

The "we lose IndyRef2 so we'll make any deal unpalatable for IndyRef3" strategy.

 

This needs to go in the fucking sea.

 

 

[Glen Sannox 64]

20 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Jobs cannot be used to justify something that is morally abhorrent. Auschwitz employed people, should that have been used as an argument to have kept it open?

A pretty poor analogy. As for them being morally abhorrent, plenty would disagree. They may well be expensive, but they have kept us safe and that is a price worth paying.

[Glen Sannox 64]

6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So their latest wheeze is a double referendum - one on the principle and one on the "detail".

 

The "we lose IndyRef2 so we'll make any deal unpalatable for IndyRef3" strategy.

 

This needs to go in the fucking sea.

 

 

Is it unreasonable to get a chance to vote on the detail? Surely you want to know exactly what an Indy Scotland would entail.

[DeeTillEhDeh 6,147]

Is it unreasonable to get a chance to vote on the detail? Surely you want to know exactly what an Indy Scotland would entail.

[welshbairn 18,863]

13 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

Is it unreasonable to get a chance to vote on the detail? Surely you want to know exactly what an Indy Scotland would entail.

The future is another country. What will Brexit entail?

[DrewDon 6,205]

1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-id-be-glad-to-see-scotland-go/

Not enough Partridge shrugs for this.

It's funny how most normal English people don't give a shit about the Union either way, really. It's just the mental Scotch Unionists on Twitter who have convinced themselves that they do. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod 5,053]

38 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

A pretty poor analogy. As for them being morally abhorrent, plenty would disagree. They may well be expensive, but they have kept us safe and that is a price worth paying.

Not really, nuclear weapons have killed a lot of people, are against international law and people are employed in their operation, Auschwitz killed a lot of people, against international law and people were employed there. 
 

[git-intae-thum 1,005]

44 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So their latest wheeze is a double referendum - one on the principle and one on the "detail".

 

The "we lose IndyRef2 so we'll make any deal unpalatable for IndyRef3" strategy.

 

This needs to go in the fucking sea.

 

 

I notice in the same article Mr Major asserts that legally the Scots need Westminster's permission to hold another referendum.

Eh.....naw we fuckin dinnae.

They can also get that in the sea.

 

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56 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So their latest wheeze is a double referendum - one on the principle and one on the "detail".

 

The "we lose IndyRef2 so we'll make any deal unpalatable for IndyRef3" strategy.

 

This needs to go in the fucking sea.

 

 

Fud Fraser the tory finance wizard?? rubbished Major's proposal on John Beattie's RS show tonight

[NotThePars 8,214]

53 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

A pretty poor analogy. As for them being morally abhorrent, plenty would disagree. They may well be expensive, but they have kept us safe and that is a price worth paying.

Kept us safe from what and who

[Antlion 2,002]

How is Major’s attempt to stop Brexit going? It seems his suggestion about the Scots (“they’ll come to see how good the UK is even though the UK is undergoing Brexit which I’m also arguing is ... er ... disastrous”) will be about as effective.

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53 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

A pretty poor analogy. As for them being morally abhorrent, plenty would disagree. They may well be expensive, but they have kept us safe and that is a price worth paying.

You only become a target when you raise your head above the parapet, other western countries refused to go down the road of becoming a nuclear missile repository leased from the Americans.

Bear in mind that the guidance systems of all the nuclear missiles we lease from the Americans for multiple billions can only be serviced in the United States by US military personnel.

Ask yourself who have we been keeping safe all these years?

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55 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

Is it unreasonable to get a chance to vote on the detail? Surely you want to know exactly what an Indy Scotland would entail.

Freedom is the answer.

Freedom to govern ourselves without the westminster input and an undemocratic unelected HOL telling us what can or cannot do.