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10 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

Pressuring the EU to deny Scotland rejoining is incredible patter on so many levels. 

I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead.

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Just now, Granny Danger said:

I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead.

We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english.

Google Aubigny Sur Nere.

In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said;

"In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship."

 

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17 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

Pressuring the EU to deny Scotland rejoining is incredible patter on so many levels. 

I can see the EU rolling out the red carpet for Scotland as a monumental "f**k YOU" to Boris Johnson and his cohort of arseholes. 

I was going to say it shows such a lack of self awareness on behalf of the Tories, but of course, they are so detached from reality it's absolutely no surprise.

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10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead.

That's my point. The EU will want to help Scotland "fast-track" even more now. 

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1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english.

Google Aubigny Sur Nere.

In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said;

"In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship."

Where the ****s our statue then? :angry:

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1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english.

Google Aubigny Sur Nere.

In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said;

"In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship."

 

We should be looking to strengthen our relationship with France, great lads. 

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1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english.

Google Aubigny Sur Nere.

In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said;

"In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship."

 

This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at Parkhead

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57 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

Where the ****s our statue then? :angry:

In The Rue Francois Miron, Paris.

Appropriately it's called the Auld Alliance Pub.

 

Edited by SandyCromarty

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15 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at Parkhead

De Gaulle mentioned five centuries of Scots fighting for France, nothing political in that, just a statement that Scotland is part of French history and with Independence and our welcome back into the EU a part of France's future.

Edited by SandyCromarty

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This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at Parkhead


Sometimes you can sabotage an otherwise valid point by making an arse of how you back it up.

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Scotland fought for Joan of Arc and she got burnt. Afaik that's about it. Not a great CV.

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24 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Not much better. Only reason the French like us is because they think we hate the English.

There is undoubtedly a residual effect of the last 500 odd years of history and conflict with England is the common theme.

But I dunno. I think the England-France thing these days is really overblown. A politically significant constituency in England is right into all that up yours Delors stuff but I get the feeling most French people just look on with bemusement.

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3 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:

We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english.

Google Aubigny Sur Nere.

In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said;

"In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship."

 

It's called "playing to the audience".  If anyone thinks that this is relevant to our modern day relationship with France then more fool them.

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1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

De Gaulle mentioned five centuries of Scots fighting for France, nothing political in that, just a statement that Scotland is part of French history and with Independence and our welcome back into the EU a part of France's future.

De Gualle said all this.  Nostradamus doesn't get a look in.

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13 hours ago, strichener said:

It's called "playing to the audience".  If anyone thinks that this is relevant to our modern day relationship with France then more fool them.

In 2016 the Scottish people voted 68% to remain in the EU.

Later that year a poll by YouGov Euro in France showed that 61% of French people were in favour of Scottish Independence.

Edited by SandyCromarty

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