Gordon EF Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 You know Stephen...? Stephen.... always clammy, even when it's cold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cauliflower-HMFC Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Can tell you now since this fiasco with training I'll no be voting indyref2 just to spite the SNP. Celtic and aberdeen Completely jeopardise the season and its hearts that get in trouble. CONSPIRACY -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dardo Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Can tell you now since this fiasco with training I'll no be voting indyref2 just to spite the SNP. Celtic and aberdeen Completely jeopardise the season and its hearts that get in trouble. CONSPIRACY[emoji1787] [emoji1787] [emoji1787] [emoji1787] [emoji1787] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Sunrise said: Dani Garavelli is far from a ‘yoon’ - I think she actually supports independence! - I’m actually looking forward to what she has to say. Garavelli was early follower of the Phillip Cross Twitter account which suggests she is closely connected to the UK security services. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Garavelli was early follower of the Phillip Cross Twitter account which suggests she is closely connected to the UK security services. Can someone explain what the f**k that means? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sunrise said: Can someone explain what the f**k that means? Phillip Cross is an alias account for editing Wikipedia which is constantly editing Wikipedia articles to give them a right wing, pro MI5, MI6, MoD slant. It has been editing Wikipedia literally every day for over 5 years. There was a twitter account in that name which never tweeted but was followed by mainly journalists including Garavelli which suggests a clear link between those journalists and security services propaganda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Phillip Cross is an alias account for editing Wikipedia which is constantly editing Wikipedia articles to give them a right wing, pro MI5, MI6, MoD slant. It has been editing Wikipedia literally every day for over 5 years. There was a twitter account in that name which never tweeted but was followed by mainly journalists including Garavelli which suggests a clear link between those journalists and security services propaganda.We need to remember that like many workers in society who are hired hands, the actions of journalists may or may not reflect their personal views or opinions. I know several people who are employed by the UK Government who vote SNP, and there are others whose personal circumstances may dictate that they are in jobs which would not have been their natural choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Does this look like the face of a man who’s (ever) had all he could eat?Oof Kane not looking good 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MixuFruit said: Is it still going? Thought other editors had finally got it blocked from editing a lot of topics of that sort. It's banned from editing British politics so it's just hassling Aaron Mate, Ben Norton, Rania Khalek etc now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFruit said: Quite a fascinating subject. You get fairly convincing evidence it is at least partly run by Oliver Kamm and instead of him being written off as a biddable intelligence asset who is probably also a psychopath he seems to still be regarded as someone worth listening to. That and the way the whole integrity initiative thing was handwaved away is nuts. I didn't know Garavelli had a Cross connection. I think it's because it's pretty much every MSM journalist that deals with anything security/defence related. The Guardian was brought into line post Snowden and all the papers have meetings at Whitehall where they coordinate foreign coverage with the security services. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 This is a hard tweet to search for. Twitter search will not bring it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 If Phillip Cross is an alias account for the spooks, why don't they change the name every so often? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Detournement said: This is a hard tweet to search for. Twitter search will not bring it up. Not sure why it would be odd for the Guardian to have a deputy editor on the committee. Quote There are currently seventeen members nominated by the Media; five by the News Media Association (NMA), two by the Committee’s Chairs, one by the Professional Publishers Association (but has vacancies for two) and one each by the Scottish Newspaper Society, the Press Association, the BBC, ITN, ITV, Sky TV, the Society of Editors, IHS Markit (Jane’s), the (Book) Publishers Association and two by the Committee’s Chairs. https://dsma.uk/how-the-system-works/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 The point is when they were edited by Rusbridger they weren't on the committee and they had far more diverse opinion in the paper and broke stories like the Snowden revelations. Under Viner they are pretty much state stenographers on non UK issues and are basically kept afloat by money from Gates, Rockefeller, Soros etc. They had an opinion piece recently that suggested the security services should work against Scottish independence (which obviously happens anyway). On the broader issue you can't say we have a free press when they are literally taking orders from the security state. Coverage of Corbyn was beyond biased and foreign coverage is extremely politicised. The coverage of Yemen and Bolivia are the best (and saddest) examples of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: kept afloat by money from Gates, Rockefeller, Soros etc. I hope to f**k you have evidence for this or I'll start thinking you're Neale Hanvey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/info/2018/oct/02/philanthropic-partnerships-at-the-guardian Quote Our current philanthropic partnerships The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which supports the Guardian’s global development site Animals farmed – funded in part with a grant from the Open Philanthropy Project Feminist economics, Genderqueer Generation, and other reporting on gender equality in the US - supported in part by Open Society Foundations. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/series/resilient-cities Quote The resilient cities page is supported by the Rockefeller Foundation, creators of the Resilient Cities challenge https://www.theguardian.com/profile/georgesoros George Soros is chairman of Soros Fund Management and of the Open Society Foundations. He is author of The Age of Fallibility: Consequences of the War on Terror. His articles are brought to readers in co-operation with Project Syndicate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Have the Jacobites got their freeeedumb yet from that West monster? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Have the Jacobites got their freeeedumb yet from that West monster? 2024 squire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 10 hours ago, edinabear said: Have the Jacobites got their freeeedumb yet from that West monster? My Team: Rangers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2021/22 will be decisive in Scotland’s future. If people’s democratic aspirations are ignored then no one should be surprised if other methods are adopted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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