When will indyref2 happen?

[Dawson Park Boy]

3 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said:

You'd get nowt from the UK government. It would be up to the Scottish Government to honour your contributions. The burden would fall on the Scottish taxpayer. The money you theoretically paid into the system has long been spent.

At long last, someone who gets it.

Thank you.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

The fact that DPB is backing up Tibbs' total jibberish tells us all we need to know. 

At what point do trolls realise that they're simply being laughed at? 

[Mark Connolly]

56 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

And we can now go live to Holyrood where top level civil servants from the Treasury are meeting with the PM and Chancellor, and the FM and the Finance Secretary. 

 

TBH, I'm not convinced this shows less grasp of the situation than Kwarteng and Truss would...

[git-intae-thum]

The argument that you won't get your UK state pension because you live in an independent Scotland is a hilarious fail.

Again.......it would require specific legislation from Westminster enabling a UK retiree to draw their UK pension if they reside in any other country in the world.....apart from Scotland

Good luck sorting that out.

[Jeff Venom]

Amazon Prime straight out the 'managing a country's finances is the same as running a household budget' analogy book of utter fail. 

[TheScarf]

17 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

The argument that you won't get your UK state pension because you live in an independent Scotland is a hilarious fail.

Again.......it would require specific legislation from Westminster enabling a UK retiree to draw their UK pension if they reside in any other country in the world.....apart from Scotland

Good luck sorting that out.

It's mental folk think that isn't it.  You can draw your pension fine if you live in Spain, Brazil, Denmark, Mongolia, but not Scotland.

[GiGi]

On 22/08/2022 at 12:58, Fletcher23 said:

We do our research Snafu that's why we know being independent would cause years of austerity, worse than it is just now. 

lolololol

[Dawson Park Boy]

28 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

The argument that you won't get your UK state pension because you live in an independent Scotland is a hilarious fail.

Again.......it would require specific legislation from Westminster enabling a UK retiree to draw their UK pension if they reside in any other country in the world.....apart from Scotland

Good luck sorting that out.

You will get your pension.

All we’re saying is that the SG pays for it.

Please read what is written.

[101]

On 25/09/2022 at 19:06, oaksoft said:

@Dawson Park Boy may be wrong, right or somewhere in between in his views on pensions but there isn't a single person anywhere who knows for a fact how pensions would be funded under an independent Scotland.

It is clearly an area requiring answers and not one which requires several pages of arrogant responses from Yes supporters who frankly can't possibly have a clue about how all this would work in reality given that even Sturgeon doesn't.

Arrogant Yes voters claiming to have the answers to every potential issue won't win over a single No voter to the cause. A lot of this is going to be a shot in the dark if we go for independence. Pretending otherwise is just daft.

FFS has Brexit taught us nothing about what levels of shit can hit the fan when two hostile parties divorce?

Considering the UK govt don't have a ring fenced pot and utterly fucked the WASPI women I don't think there is much more uncertainty. 

Committing to set up a ring fenced pot would be my preference but I'm not sure the practicalities however to those doing the leg work there must be plenty examples out there which are better than the UK one.

[TheScarf]

7 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

You will get your pension.

All we’re saying is that the SG pays for it.

Please read what is written.

The UK government will pay what you've contributed up until Independence day, obviously contributions paid in an iScotland will be paid by the SG.

[Dawson Park Boy]

13 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

The UK government will pay what you've contributed up until Independence day, obviously contributions paid in an iScotland will be paid by the SG.

No.

[git-intae-thum]

So as a UK citizen I won't get to draw my UK pension simply because I live in Scotland........but I will if I move to Spain.

[carpetmonster]

41 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

It's mental folk think that isn't it.  You can draw your pension fine if you live in Spain, Brazil, Denmark, Mongolia, but not Scotland.

Groups Where We'd Draw With Mongolia And Get Humped Out On Goal Difference thread for this pish IMO. 

[Dawson Park Boy]

18 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

So as a UK citizen I won't get to draw my UK pension simply because I live in Scotland........but I will if I move to Spain.

If you move to Spain before independence the UK pays.

If you move after independence the SG pays.

[101]

1 minute ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

If you move to Spain before independence the UK pays.

If you move after independence the SG pays.

Part of our divorce bill one would presume and seeing as the UK love to pay them I can't see a problem.

[strichener]

1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

If you move to Spain before independence the UK pays.

If you move after independence the SG pays.

and if you are homeless?

[Dawson Park Boy]

10 minutes ago, strichener said:

and if you are homeless?

Well, you won’t be moving to Spain.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

Buckled at Amazon Prime subscription.

 

[strichener]

1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Well, you won’t be moving to Spain.

It was a serious question.  You appear to think that your residency determines who pays your pension, so if I am homeless then who pays?

[Antlion]

To deflect from the current Tory trainwreck, the UKNats’/Tory apologists’ current line seems to be to go hard on “but the ferries! Bloody SNP AND GREEN!”

Expect to see a lot of this. After all, we should be far more concerned about the ferries than about the strong and stable UK economy being set ablaze (which is absolutely fine and was planned, as going down in flames is good, dammit.)