The DA Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I read a Twitter thread this morning that stated that Scotland already has an S30 to hold elections and referendums - an S30 is just a vehicle to move retained issues to a devolved government - but the outstanding question is whether that existing S30 allows the SG to hold a referendum impacting the UK constitution - that still needs to be tested in court. Also, all referendums and elections are 'advisory', including general elections. Any constitutional lawyers able to confirm or otherwise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said: Your Nationalism is riddled with racism. That's the point. Whoever said it wasn't? Still has heehaw to do with ScotNattery being overrun by weirdos and Anglophobes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 We've all been here before. Expecting NS to deliver something huge regarding independence only to be let down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 She said "WATP" lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 19th October 2023, Now is the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The answer is the 19th of October 2023. Please close this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, sophia said: The answer is the 19th of October 2023. Please close this thread. Not watching it - is there anything beyond the date in terms of substance. By which I mean, what happens when the Tories say no to an S30? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Taking this directly to the Supreme Court totally shoots the Naw sides fox here. Tremendous work from the boss. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, renton said: Not watching it - is there anything beyond the date in terms of substance. By which I mean, what happens when the Tories say no to an S30? Lord Advocate is immediately going to the Supreme Court to establish legality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Lord Advocate to take a reference to the Supreme Court? Also date, she was not bluffing. We go there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) If the supreme court answer is no and there is a further no from Westminster the SNP will fight the general election on a single issue ticket .. a de facto referendum Wee Dougie has just filled his pants Edited June 28, 2022 by sophia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Class that she's already set out the expectations that when they get told it's illegal then it's "Westminsters fault" and how they'll fight the next GE. So we're in the exact same place we were for the past decade. Nationalists that haven't drunk the kool aid like some of the regular sycophants here must be massively let down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, sophia said: If the answer is no and there is a further no from Westminster the SNP will fight the general election on a single issue ticket .. a de facto referendum Wee Dougie has just filled his pants Shameless power grab. If we can’t get this through just give us all the power anyway. What a brass neck. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, sophia said: Lord Advocate is immediately going to the Supreme Court to establish legality I'm not wholly sold on the chances of getting a decent result out of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Also gets it right up Kilgour and that DogFoodTwat who've been rubbing themselves to death at the prospect of taking Nicola to court to defend der yoonion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Mon then Scotland. Do the right thing and sack this disgusting "Union" clean off. Our independence day is going to be perilously close to my Birthday. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 20th October for a full scale glengarry assault to take Rockall then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 f**k (and I cannot stress this enough) the SNP, shocking party that have shown themselves up as incompetent and left a lot of their morals and values in question. However if this goes ahead I have absolutely no doubt that it’ll be a Yes vote from me, have absolutely no love for the UK, England or anything like that, the SNP won’t be around forever, I do sincerely hope this goes ahead and that we don’t f**k it up this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Its got to start somewhere, all that matters now is winning it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I haven’t seen the speech but the outcomes seem fairly pragmatic. Plan A is try asking, which will be a no. Then it’ll be the courts, which I suspect will also be a no. Plan C is the interesting one. I think Sturgeon deserves credit from all sides for not going down the route of an “illegal” referendum as a fair chunk of her party members would like. However what is the detail of using the GE as a ‘de facto’ referendum? If the SNP get more than 50% of the vote, it’s UDI? An extra extra special mandate to ask for a Section 30 again? Or does a simple plurality of seats under FPTP count as a win? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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