The_Kincardine Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 56 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: Conservative voter pretending to care about the 'us and 'them' schism imploring us to remain in one of the most unequal country in the OECD. I lived long enough in a housing scheme in Motherwell, London's East End, E'burgh's New Town and Aberdeenshire's Deeside to ken that only brain-dead Natter fuckwits think that the 'us and 'them' schism is Scotland vs England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Certainly not a great showcase for his comic* talent but he is substantially right. All nationalist movements boil down to 'us' vs 'them' but what makes Scottish nationalism so risible - pathetic, even - is that 'us' are almost indistinguishable from 'them'. And yet your bosses still think you’re a pathetic Scotch joke, no matter how much you try and show him what a jolly good BritNat racist you are... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Mostly votes Tory v never votes ToryAye, we're a' the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Certainly not a great showcase for his comic* talent but he is substantially right. All nationalist movements boil down to 'us' vs 'them' but what makes Scottish nationalism so risible - pathetic, even - is that 'us' are almost indistinguishable from 'them'. This isn't surprising as we've worked in partnership for almost half a millennium and have been the same political entity for over 300 years. Who's the "us" and "them" in the eyes of Scottish Nationalists? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Quite an astonishing article! We don't care what you want Scotland or care for your democracy. You are required to keep us relevant in the world, so get back in your box and shut up! https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/nationalism-union-brexit-b900299.html?utm_content=bufferd93ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, DublinMagyar said: Mostly votes Tory v never votes Tory Aye, we're a' the same Bear in mind that, despite his Ken Loachian experience of housing schemes the length and breadth of Britain, the bold Kinc also repeatedly voted Tory, purely because they laughingly peddle British nationalism to the thick and the staunch. That makes his howls of protest against NATTERStm and the evils of social injustice pretty damn hollow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Quite an astonishing article! We don't care what you want Scotland or care for your democracy. You are required to keep us relevant in the world, so get back in your box and shut up! https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/nationalism-union-brexit-b900299.html?utm_content=bufferd93ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=bufferJust read that, his advice to Boris J is just to ignore democracy. It really is quite astonishing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Quite an astonishing article! We don't care what you want Scotland or care for your democracy. You are required to keep us relevant in the world, so get back in your box and shut up! https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/nationalism-union-brexit-b900299.html?utm_content=bufferd93ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Gideon hoovering up the coke and trolling f**k out the DUP. Glorious. Finally seeing a Tory admit they don’t think the Northern Irish are really British anyway, and that Scotland is a possession to be forced into submission like a colony is surprisingly refreshing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hey guys, did you all know that people who support Scottish independence are sometimes referred to as nationalists? Well it turns out that some people also described as nationalists were some pretty bad people. Mind blown yet? Yeah, well just think on that for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Hey guys, did you all know that people who support Scottish independence are sometimes referred to as nationalists? Well it turns out that some people also described as nationalists were some pretty bad people. Mind blown yet? Yeah, well just think on that for a while. You've made me question my whole reality. How can I ever thank you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 46 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Quite an astonishing article! We don't care what you want Scotland or care for your democracy. You are required to keep us relevant in the world, so get back in your box and shut up! https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/nationalism-union-brexit-b900299.html?utm_content=bufferd93ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Just read that, his advice to Boris J is just to ignore democracy. It really is quite astonishing It's quite a mindset they have about Scotland and Scottish democracy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Hey guys, did you all know that people who support Scottish independence are sometimes referred to as nationalists? Well it turns out that some people also described as nationalists were some pretty bad people. Mind blown yet? Yeah, well just think on that for a while. Whenever anyone says that start talking about Gandhi. They shut up pretty fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I mean its literally there right in front of you in black and white, after me further explaining further up the page, you found the quotes, posted them, and still don't understand what they say. Did I use difficult words? I understand them fine. I am not the one that posts over various threads stating that people can't have opinions on anything unless they are "experts". What we are now finding out is that the subject that you have allegedly obtained a degree doesn't need any qualifications to discuss because "politics isn't like that". Makes your alleged degree pretty worthless. Anyway I look forward to you applying the same standards when people want to discuss the impact of viruses, lockdowns and schooling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, strichener said: I understand them fine. I am not the one that posts over various threads stating that people can't have opinions on anything unless they are "experts". What we are now finding out is that the subject that you have allegedly obtained a degree doesn't need any qualifications to discuss because "politics isn't like that". Makes your alleged degree pretty worthless. Anyway I look forward to you applying the same standards when people want to discuss the impact of viruses, lockdowns and schooling. Neither am I. I said people on here questioning the R number are not qualified to do so. They're not. You're a fanny, you can swing and miss all day if you want, it won't make you any less of a fanny. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Consider me stunned that the former politician who famously thought referendums were a terrible idea and who told David Cameron not to hold on on EU membership... thinks a referendum is a terrible idea and is advising against it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, MixuFruit said: Hi there I am the editor of The Times and know talent when I see it. How would you like a six figure income forever? I've just accepted the role of Chief Politics Editor at Buzzfeed UK. Sorry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Consider me stunned that the former politician who famously thought referendums were a terrible idea and who told David Cameron not to hold on on EU membership... thinks a referendum is a terrible idea and is advising against it. Advising to stomp on the democratic rights of Scotland takes it to another level though. Yes? No? Anyways, the man is a repulsive piece of trash. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Colkitto said: Quite an astonishing article! We don't care what you want Scotland or care for your democracy. You are required to keep us relevant in the world, so get back in your box and shut up! https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/nationalism-union-brexit-b900299.html?utm_content=bufferd93ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer From that Osborne article: "As Tony Blair says, no one has been able to mount a fight since Ruth Davidson left the stage. " Illustrates how familiar George Osborne is with facts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Quite a remarkable article that.His suggesting that new takes are needed to project positive virtues of staying in union was terrifically juxtaposed by the speaking of Scotland like it's a Westninster possession, and just straight up denying the people a referendum, roasting hot takes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 You've got to remember that a guy like Osborne has a similar outlook to Mitch McConnell - he isn't there to elevate the art of discourse, and he certainly isn't there to practice any type of moral consistency. His is just a narrow outlook of achieving whatever short term goal is required, regardless of the long term impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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