When will indyref2 happen?

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Johnson reckons Blair's worst crime was bringing in Devolution and Blair reckons his own worst decision was to introduce FOI legislation.

I feel like they are both ignoring the elephant sized WMD dossier in the room.

[Caledonian1]

5 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:

I don't think that any pro Independence supporters ever thought that Bojo the clown and his arse licking tory buddies were pro Devolution and vehemtly anti Scottish Independence.

Mind you he's in the shite in england with the covid crisis so he'll come up with any crap to appease the rabid right wing unionists. 

but....but.....there was the VOW...that's only strengthened the Scottish Parliament......most devolved parliament in the world...six years on I am sure all of that has been implemented hasn't it.. David Cameron signed every copy of the Daily record himself....didnt he?

[Merkie84]

Labour set up the devolved parliaments to run as their own little fiefdoms for the times they would inevitably be out of power in Westminster. Nothing to do with empowering or providing better representation for the people they rule over. 

When they were set up labour was used to thumping majorities in Scotland and Wales and couldn’t see a time when they would be any worse than senior coalition partners in either chamber.

It could be argued than Scottish labour never seen the SNPs 2007 win coming and still haven’t recovered from it. 

The time to speak up for devolution was in 2012 when the format and question of the referendum was being debated. Had they offered a devo max option then, it would likely have won and maybe seen a resurgence of their fortunes

As it was, they went for a straight yes/ no referendum and stood shoulder to shoulder with the tories on the no side.

They made their bed, they should be prepared to lie in it. 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Noted proven liar Alistair Carmichael was on the BBC earlier giving it the "they said it was once in a generation" shite again

When he was asked if a win for the SNP in the elections meant people wanted another referendum he basically short circuited, it was quite fun

[SandyCromarty]

56 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Noted proven liar Alistair Carmichael was on the BBC earlier giving it the "they said it was once in a generation" shite again

When he was asked if a win for the SNP in the elections meant people wanted another referendum he basically short circuited, it was quite fun

Labia Lips at his best.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

May's Scottish Parliament elections are crucial - there needs to be a concerted effort to get a huge independence majority.

The only way to achieve that is voting SNP in the constituency and Green on the list (bar one area).

[KingRocketman II]

1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Noted proven liar Alistair Carmichael was on the BBC earlier giving it the "they said it was once in a generation" shite again

When he was asked if a win for the SNP in the elections meant people wanted another referendum he basically short circuited, it was quite fun

not so much just a liar, but he allowed an enquiry to fully run its course at an estimated cost of £400k to the tax payer in full knowledge that he was the culprit. reckon shameful and shameless. 

[SandyCromarty]

6 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

Don't know about the last bit mate, the vast majority of oil is way north of that line, forget Aberdeen the fields themselves are on the same latitude as Sutherland and Orkney .  there are gas fields of the English coast but again most are pretty far south. the border area of the sea is quite barron

This maritime boundary act of 1987 was enacted by a tory government under Margaret Thatcher, the boundary which originally extended straight out from the england Scotland border was moved further north to bring possible fields under english judiciary maritime law.

In 1987 North Sea oil and gas fields in the East Shetland basin were at peak production, further gas fields were mainly off Hull and Yarmouth and Morecombe  Bay was in late exploratory mode but soon to be in production, the government owned Britoil in the early eighties was exploratory drilling off Blackpool, offshore BP'S Dorset's Wytch farm and on the east coast of england.

The area which was brought into england by moving the boundary was unknown geologically but given successes elsewhere it was thought that the area could be productive, however drilling proved otherwise.

One area which is thought to be rich in minerals is the Firth of Clyde but owing to Faslane's location and nuclear submarine movements any exploratory work is denied, west of there Dublins Kish gas bank has been productive.  

[strichener]

3 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Noted proven liar Alistair Carmichael was on the BBC earlier giving it the "they said it was once in a generation" shite again

When he was asked if a win for the SNP in the elections meant people wanted another referendum he basically short circuited, it was quite fun

The same Alistair Carmichael that was in favour of the People's Vote.  That hypocritical Alistair?

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

Where as Uber-Yoons will be agreeing with Johnson like wee nodding dogs, I'm a bit baffled with the Tories doubling down on Johnson's garbage by saying that the 'majority of Scots' agree with him.

The 'majority' of Scots clearly and most definitely do not agree with him, and that has been the case for 23 years. Scots of all political persuasions want devolution.

This seems like a rather risky tactic by the Tories. It gives the SNP the world's biggest open goal come May next year. 

Are they just fucking stupid, or is there another reason behind this.

[doulikefish]

Another Union task force is on the way 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

This will be clowncar through a minefield stuff. Looking forward to it.

A bunch of faceless ghouls asking us why we don't want to shag the Union Jack.

[Gordon EF]

1 hour ago, Bob Mahelp said:

 Are they just fucking stupid, or is there another reason behind this.

Pretty sure there's no other reason...

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Ha ha

 

[Gordon EF]

Just now, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Ha ha

 

Gammon-faced unionist Tories *really* get why support for the union is collapsing.

[DrewDon]

4 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Ha ha

 

They're definitely not nationalists, though. That's the important thing to remember here. 

[dirty dingus]

They'll be trying to get schools to sing to Betty and raise the flag at assembly. Might even wheel out a few corporate egg chasers to promote the union again. 

[Miguel Sanchez]

When in doubt: Flegs

[Antlion]

14 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Ha ha

 

I wholeheartedly support the Tories associating the Union Jack with every one of their policies.

[itzdrk]

11 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

They'll be trying to get schools to sing to Betty and raise the flag at assembly. Might even wheel out a few corporate egg chasers to promote the union again. 

Nobody even knows who they are when they do come on spouting their twee uj waving pish