SandyCromarty Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Interesting reading. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-19/u-k-s-tories-start-war-gaming-to-stop-scottish-independence Aye Tory War Games, it was ever thus and we can expect all sorts of distorted shite from their tory media friends, scaremongering of the bogeyman type etc. They have been trying to discredit Nicola and the SNP Government foR the last ten years so nothing new there. The classic bit though is 'pressurising the European Union to deny Scotlands rejoining the EU'. So the tories have just fecked the Eu off and then think they can tell them what to do. I don't think this is far fetched as it does display the arrogance of the tories and though the report was not commissioned by Boris's mob it was constructed by a couple of tory heavies and friends. Remember the Edwardian Punch mag headline, 'Fog in Channel, Continent Isolated.' Not far removed from home counties tory idealism. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Pressuring the EU to deny Scotland rejoining is incredible patter on so many levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Pressuring the EU to deny Scotland rejoining is incredible patter on so many levels. I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Granny Danger said: I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead. We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english. Google Aubigny Sur Nere. In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said; "In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Pressuring the EU to deny Scotland rejoining is incredible patter on so many levels. I can see the EU rolling out the red carpet for Scotland as a monumental "f**k YOU" to Boris Johnson and his cohort of arseholes. I was going to say it shows such a lack of self awareness on behalf of the Tories, but of course, they are so detached from reality it's absolutely no surprise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m not sure that the U.K. is going to have much influence amongst their erstwhile EU colleagues in the months and years ahead. That's my point. The EU will want to help Scotland "fast-track" even more now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english. Google Aubigny Sur Nere. In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said; "In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship." Where the ****s our statue then? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english. Google Aubigny Sur Nere. In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said; "In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship." We should be looking to strengthen our relationship with France, great lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english. Google Aubigny Sur Nere. In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said; "In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship." This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at Parkhead 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: Where the ****s our statue then? In The Rue Francois Miron, Paris. Appropriately it's called the Auld Alliance Pub. Edited October 20, 2020 by SandyCromarty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NotThePars said: This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at Parkhead De Gaulle mentioned five centuries of Scots fighting for France, nothing political in that, just a statement that Scotland is part of French history and with Independence and our welcome back into the EU a part of France's future. Edited October 20, 2020 by SandyCromarty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 This is the political equivalent of Celtic fans posting screenshots of Xavi praising the atmosphere at ParkheadSometimes you can sabotage an otherwise valid point by making an arse of how you back it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Scotland fought for Joan of Arc and she got burnt. Afaik that's about it. Not a great CV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garde_Écossaise Not much better. Only reason the French like us is because they think we hate the English. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: We Scots are still held in high regard in France unlike the english. Google Aubigny Sur Nere. In a speech in Edinburgh De Gaulle said; "In every combat where for five centuries the destiny of France was at stake, there were always men of Scotland to fight side by side with men of France, and what Frenchmen feel is that no people has ever been more generous than yours with its friendship." It's called "playing to the audience". If anyone thinks that this is relevant to our modern day relationship with France then more fool them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: De Gaulle mentioned five centuries of Scots fighting for France, nothing political in that, just a statement that Scotland is part of French history and with Independence and our welcome back into the EU a part of France's future. De Gualle said all this. Nostradamus doesn't get a look in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 That went well, then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, strichener said: It's called "playing to the audience". If anyone thinks that this is relevant to our modern day relationship with France then more fool them. In 2016 the Scottish people voted 68% to remain in the EU. Later that year a poll by YouGov Euro in France showed that 61% of French people were in favour of Scottish Independence. Edited October 21, 2020 by SandyCromarty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The EU have said several times they would welcome an IS into it. The term 'fast-track' was also mentioned a couple of times. On what planet would they listen to the rUK, lead by a right-wing, anti Europe government? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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