SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Stellaboz said: It's hilarious that yoon loving Scots absolutely don't care that those in charge down in London don't give one f*ck about them. Not one. You base your politics on how much elected politicians care about you. Holy shit that's a special kind of special. Do you think the SNP care deeply for you? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: You're posting about a dozen times a day in this thread alone, it's pretty clear who's been massively triggered I never mentioned triggered, I'm responding to those that respond to me, you without any invitation seem to just spout some angry man nonsense in the shadows the whole time, seems a little bad sad to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I never mentioned triggered, I'm responding to those that respond to me, you without any invitation seem to just spout some angry man nonsense in the shadows the whole time, seems a little bad sad to me. *bitSilly ***. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Antlion said: I suspect that those in charge in London would consider them filthy, unwashed embarrassments, looking on them as a medieval baron might look on the urchins who scoured their sewers and dutifully doffed their caps to reveal lice-ridden heads. Put the likes of Kincardine (or any Northern Irish loyalist or beer-stained Sevconian) near a metropolitan London Tory and watch the latter’s nostrils flare in disgust at the parochial, antiquated caveman. Loyalists are a quaint joke to those they worship - absolute voting fodder whom the Tories know need only a flag and a few bars of God Save the Queen to be reduced to cringing servitude. Oh wow you have a horrible view of your own people lmao. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Outstanding patter. Going for the greens I see. I thought I raised a very salient point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Day of the Lords said: *bit Silly ***. Proving my point, try cheering up btw, your miserable awful attitude stinks up the place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Gordon EF said: I thought I raised a very salient point. Ah ha ha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Because a majority aren't. You can't say that is the case at all. You may suspect it to be but that's not proven. I've answered your questions yet you seem to be very reluctant to tell me why I should be more optimistic over an Independent Scotland than I am being contended now, shouldn't be that hard to tell me some of the positives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 You can't say that is the case at all. You may suspect it to be but that's not proven. I've answered your questions yet you seem to be very reluctant to tell me why I should be more optimistic over an Independent Scotland than I am being contended now, shouldn't be that hard to tell me some of the positives. You also can't know for certain that the majority are satisfied just now. The polls suggest they aren't. Do you want to test the polls democratically? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said: 13 minutes ago, Stormzy said: You can't say that is the case at all. You may suspect it to be but that's not proven. I've answered your questions yet you seem to be very reluctant to tell me why I should be more optimistic over an Independent Scotland than I am being contended now, shouldn't be that hard to tell me some of the positives. You also can't know for certain that the majority are satisfied just now. The polls suggest they aren't. Do you want to test the polls democratically? So you think we should have referendums based on polls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If a party puts in a commitment to hold a referendum and wins a majority then it do be that simple 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Yes I can, yes it is. No suspicion needed, just the facts: I'm not at all reluctant to expound on the subject. Scotland is a country and countries should be governed by the people who live there. I think independence gets us PR and northwestern European social democracy within my lifetime. Polls again... jesus. They aren't the best indicator, the 2014 referendum was more accurate. Your first point is absolute birthday caird pish and your second is your personal politics, you've not really sold the idea to me or anyone else. I'm not surprised people arent convinced to change the status quo over those two reasons provided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, NotThePars said: If a party puts in a commitment to hold a referendum and wins a majority then it do be that simple Which is theoretical at this point. If the SNP fail to win a majority would you concede it's then not something Scottish people support. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Stormzy said: Which is theoretical at this point. If the SNP fail to win a majority would you concede it's then not something Scottish people support. Depends on if the Greens put in the same commitment and takes them over the line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, MixuFruit said: why do they need a majority? Because he said if they win a majority..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Depends on if the Greens put in the same commitment and takes them over the line Lets just say that they dont get supported by the Greens on this basis, would that be enough for you to be persuaded that your countrymen think differently to you? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, Stormzy said: You can't say that is the case at all. You may suspect it to be but that's not proven. I've answered your questions yet you seem to be very reluctant to tell me why I should be more optimistic over an Independent Scotland than I am being contended now, shouldn't be that hard to tell me some of the positives. Nobody gives a single f**k about whether an uber Yoon is optimistic or pessimistic about Scotland as an independent country. You'll be unhappy when it happens but you'll get on with it just the same. And this isn't about if it happens - it is definitely going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Over and above the Brexit vote which has given the Independence movement momentum the westminster tories have now handed us another gem with this latest ploy of theirs by passing a Brexit bill which breaks International Law and also represents a power grab on devolved governments within the uk framework. Total tory knobs, playing into our hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, HTG said: Nobody gives a single f**k about whether an uber Yoon is optimistic or pessimistic about Scotland as an independent country. You'll be unhappy when it happens but you'll get on with it just the same. And this isn't about if it happens - it is definitely going to happen. An uber Yoon... you typed all of that with a straight face? Almost impressive levels of arrogance/stupidity on display here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 What is your objective here? To turn yessers into no? Or something else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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