D.A.F.C Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Uk debt is the same as borrowing 1 million per day since the pyramids were built.Heard that quote at the weekend.They also said it wasn't anything to worry about. Somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: it isn't. If interest rates remain near zero for evermore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Wee Bully said: Of course, an independent Scottish currency, pegged to the Euro doesn’t require that. Pegging it to the Euro comes at a cost though and leaves us vulnerable to Soros style speculators. Free floating currencies are the only way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 ^^^Soros style speculators approve this message. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Pegging it to the Euro comes at a cost though and leaves us vulnerable to Soros style speculators. Free floating currencies are the only way to go. I’m fascinated by this. How does that work? And has no one learnt any lessons since 1992? Please be specific about similar issues for pegged currencies since Black Wednesday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I understand why folk have concerns about Scotland using a new currency, Sterling, or the Euro, but anybody who feels any emotion toward pieces of paper guaranteed by financial institutions needs to give themselves a good shake. If it wouldn't affect us economically, why give a toss if we used the Vietnamese Dong. Actually, handing over some Dongs for the shopping sounds braw; let's do that. Also, the independence issue seems a great method for absolute nonentities to generate attention and money that they'd never have had a sniff of otherwise. Worth thinking about, if anyone's contemplating a career change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Fifth of No voters think independent Scotland would have tackled Covid better says Curtice https://www.thenational.scot/news/18670462.fith-no-voters-think-independent-scotland-tackled-covid-better-says-curtice/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 The union deid yet ? We might as well start a Big administration thread for it. We'd be poking fun at the same people anyway. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Pie and Bovril mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 This is the most frustrating point for me. I could see myself getting behind a leftier, more assertive internal opposition if they weren't all such insufferable blowhards. So you're left with the option of throwing your lot in with the nutters or finding yourself de facto allied with the party's right wingers like Andrew Wilson, Stewart McDonald et al. A shite state of affairs and no mistake. Yup. Given independence is pretty much an inevitability at this point it would be good if some non-compromised lefty figures in the party stood up and made a name for themselves because the post-indy settlement will be largely settled from within the SNP. You never know though we might end up with a Bolshevik insurgency led by the Stirling brocialists and Mhairi Black with Ross Greer, Andy Wightman and Patrick Harvie making up the left opposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Fifth of No voters think independent Scotland would have tackled Covid better says Curtice https://www.thenational.scot/news/18670462.fith-no-voters-think-independent-scotland-tackled-covid-better-says-curtice/ And the other 80% are lying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: I will be campaigning on the single issue of giving Andy Wightman a sword post independence. Wightman should get to write the constitution of an independent Scotland by himself, then become President for life whether he wants it or not. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I will be campaigning on the single issue of giving Andy Wightman a sword post independence.Control of Trident wielding bipedal tanks, a naval flotilla and an armed guard. Nothing less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Control of Trident wielding bipedal tanks, a naval flotilla and an armed guard. Nothing less. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Fully on board with the Andy Wightman love in. what a man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: This is the most frustrating point for me. I could see myself getting behind a leftier, more assertive internal opposition if they weren't all such insufferable blowhards. So you're left with the option of throwing your lot in with the nutters or finding yourself de facto allied with the party's right wingers like Andrew Wilson, Stewart McDonald et al. A shite state of affairs and no mistake. from experience Stewart McDonald isn't a right winger, he's just un attention seeker. ive been in his company a few times and he literally cannot act like a normal person. A constant politician always looking for approval. Edited August 24, 2020 by tirso 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 i think i posted this before but i quite like the idea of going fully cashless with a new iScotland currency; afaik it was touted as an option for the £ as a way to prevent negative interest rates relatively recently. Had a quick google and found this, https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-cashless-society - China and Sweden look like they're already heading that way too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 i wonder if there are issues with liberty using cashless entirely? i don't know, just a question. in other words, the allowance for some cash transactions without state knowledge is a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 i wonder if there are issues with liberty using cashless entirely? i don't know, just a question. in other words, the allowance for some cash transactions without state knowledge is a good thing. The only reason that it could be a “good thing” is if there is something to hide(ie tax evasion) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: The only reason that it could be a “good thing” is if there is something to hide(ie tax evasion) What about non sanctioned political activity in a country like Belarus ? Or an independence campaign banned by Westminster ? I'm not saying it's a killer blow but I can see some issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Freeman oot https://mobile.twitter.com/paulhutcheon/status/1297961649832366080 I bet when she signed up she didn't expect to be in front of the cameras almost every day getting all sorts of shite slung at her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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