When will indyref2 happen?

[Antlion]

Just now, Mastermind said:

You can it to the YesLosers hoping for ‘old people’ to die quickly to achieve their swivel-eyed dream. And also frothing at the mouth that the nasty Westminster Govt deported killers and rapists recently. Minter.

 

Nice to see you signing off your posts now. 

[strichener]

15 minutes ago, Antlion said:

“Spangle”: banter brought to you from the playgrounds of 1968. Small wonder people view as little more than a rather tragic and desperately unhappy irrelevance. We’re unfortunately all aware of your views, in all their incoherent and self-important glory, as you slobber them all over the boards at every available opportunity.

You claimed there exists a myth that Scots are “better people than” the English, and immediately then claimed that Scots are not in fact more left-wing than English voters. Either you assume that being left-wing makes people “better”, or you’re simply not bright enough to keep track of what you’re writing.

Or perhaps you are part of the "left wing echo chamber" that he also mentioned and taking this in the context of this forum, there have been plenty of posts about how we are better and more left leaning than England.  It is clear what point he is making just as it is clear how much you want to try to deflect from it.

Edited March 21, 2020 by strichener

[Antlion]

13 minutes ago, strichener said:

Or perhaps you are part of the "left wing echo chamber" that he also mentioned and taking this in the context of this forum, there have been plenty of posts about how we are better and more left leaning than England.  It is clear what point he is making just as it is clear how much you want to try to deflect from it.

What do you believe the connection is between being “better” and being “more left leaning”? Please provide evidence of that connection and how you concluded one exists. If you’re that desperate to white knight your chum, I assume you have plenty.

ETA: I’m not even sure what I’m supposed to be deflecting from. His point seems to be that the panicked reaction to a viral outbreak proves Scots are no more left wing nor any “better” (!) than the English, nor any better or different to the peoples of any other nation on the planet. Is he advocating world government? The EU? The UK? None of the above? It’s a nothing point that he seems to think has value for *something*, but you’re the only person it seems to tickle - so perhaps you can explain it.

Edited March 21, 2020 by Antlion

[DAFC.]

There's more pressing issues at hand here, but is it really a surprise that the BritNats are correlating the COVID-19 pandemic to some sort of dip in support of Scottish Independence due to the government literally having to cover people's wages to keep the country ticking? They'll never learn. 

[git-intae-thum]

10 hours ago, DAFC. said:

There's more pressing issues at hand here, but is it really a surprise that the BritNats are correlating the COVID-19 pandemic to some sort of dip in support of Scottish Independence due to the government literally having to cover people's wages to keep the country ticking? They'll never learn. 

Exactly. We have had to have 10 years of austerity enacted by Westminter govts, who insisted this was for the greater good.

This last week in politics has revealed it was all an ideologically driven lie. The money was always their. There was no need to impoverish the people!!!!

Dirty lying Westminter c@nts.

And certain rockets think that the last week will turn folk off independence.

Edited March 22, 2020 by git-intae-thum

[GordonS]

8 hours ago, Mastermind said:

This. Covid-19 will be an absolute stinker for the Nats, they must be seething.  Pleasing. 

You're happy about the worst health crisis in a century because you believe it bolsters your position on a constitutional issue? WTF is wrong with you?

When people talk about how toxic social media is, be sure to know they're talking about you.

8 hours ago, Mastermind said:

You can it to the YesLosers hoping for ‘old people’ to die quickly to achieve their swivel-eyed dream. And also frothing at the mouth that the nasty Westminster Govt deported killers and rapists recently. Minter.

 

Pure whataboutery. You think because other people are arseholes, you're not if you say exactly the same thing?

[Bairn Necessities]

2 hours ago, GordonS said:

You're happy about the worst health crisis in a century because you believe it bolsters your position on a constitutional issue? WTF is wrong with you?

When people talk about how toxic social media is, be sure to know they're talking about you.

Pure whataboutery. You think because other people are arseholes, you're not if you say exactly the same thing?

Saw some of the really insane Remain people like AC Grayling sneaking out to post 'Well now, here's an opportunity to stop Brexit altogether '

Taking their tack from noted anti Indy mentalists like Effie Deans crowing about the UK financial measures. 

Pathetic.

[Mastermind]

7 hours ago, git-intae-thum said:

Exactly. We have had to have 10 years of austerity enacted by Westminter govts, who insisted this was for the greater good.

This last week in politics has revealed it was all an ideologically driven lie. The money was always their. There was no need to impoverish the people!!!!

Dirty lying Westminter c@nts.

And certain rockets think that the last week will turn folk off independence.

It will be one of the easiest jobs in the world now to persuade more than 50% of Scots to vote No again. That is of course if there is ever another vote - what’s the plan for that btw?

Rishi’s announcements over the last few days show just how better a position we are as part of the UK. 

The SNP’s plan in an independent Scotland would probably be to have us all in rowing boats looking in the North Sea looking for oil as the money simply wouldn’t be there. 

 

 

[Mastermind]

15 minutes ago, Bairn Necessities said:

Saw some of the really insane Remain people like AC Grayling sneaking out to post 'Well now, here's an opportunity to stop Brexit altogether '

Taking their tack from noted anti Indy mentalists like Effie Deans crowing about the UK financial measures. 

Pathetic.

Mike Russell is a great example of trying to use this to halt Brexit. 

[Bairnardo]

It will be one of the easiest jobs in the world now to persuade more than 50% of Scots to vote No again. That is of course if there is ever another vote - what’s the plan for that btw?
Rishi’s announcements over the last few days show just how better a position we are as part of the UK. 
The SNP’s plan in an independent Scotland would probably be to have us all in rowing boats looking in the North Sea looking for oil as the money simply wouldn’t be there. 
 
 

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] You cant find oil from a rowing boat you absolute mentalist!!! Hahahahahahaha ffs

[git-intae-thum]

9 minutes ago, Mastermind said:

It will be one of the easiest jobs in the world now to persuade more than 50% of Scots to vote No again. That is of course if there is ever another vote - what’s the plan for that btw?

Rishi’s announcements over the last few days show just how better a position we are as part of the UK. 

The SNP’s plan in an independent Scotland would probably be to have us all in rowing boats looking in the North Sea looking for oil as the money simply wouldn’t be there. 

 

 

^^^^^^^

Doesn't understand where the "money" came from type post.

Do you seriously think good old UK dipped into its huge financial reserve? 

That one that has been non existent for decades.

You surely have the most ironic profile name on the forum.

[topcat(The most tip top)]

Anyone claiming to reliably predict the longer term effect of the Coronavirus crisis on anything is talking bollocks.

However the Alex Salmond trial, which was long promised to be the unionist silver bullet, is a long way down the news agenda,

[GordonS]

4 hours ago, Bairn Necessities said:

Saw some of the really insane Remain people like AC Grayling sneaking out to post 'Well now, here's an opportunity to stop Brexit altogether '

Taking their tack from noted anti Indy mentalists like Effie Deans crowing about the UK financial measures. 

Pathetic.

I do think that the negotiations need to be paused, because nobody has the time for that right now and the travel isn't worth the risk. The deadline of the end of 2020 ought to be put back a year. But that's as far as anyone should be considering.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

47 minutes ago, GordonS said:

I do think that the negotiations need to be paused, because nobody has the time for that right now and the travel isn't worth the risk. The deadline of the end of 2020 ought to be put back a year. But that's as far as anyone should be considering.

The economic consequences of this crisis are unknown. The only thing that anyone can say for certain is that they will be long-lasting and deep, deep, deep. 

To press ahead with Brexit to satisfy some kind of insane ideology, would be irresponsible beyond belief. It has to be pushed back, and everyone knows it.  Johnson is just too terrified to say it as he knows he'll incur the wrath of the right-wing press. 

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

5 hours ago, Mastermind said:

It will be one of the easiest jobs in the world now to persuade more than 50% of Scots to vote No again. That is of course if there is ever another vote - what’s the plan for that btw?

Rishi’s announcements over the last few days show just how better a position we are as part of the UK. 

The SNP’s plan in an independent Scotland would probably be to have us all in rowing boats looking in the North Sea looking for oil as the money simply wouldn’t be there. 

 

 

This is BritNat fuckwittery in all its rancid glory. 

We're only at the beginning of this crisis. Let's imagine a scenario where over the next couple of months we have thousands of deaths on an Italian scale, leading to a complete shutdown of the country. 

Johnson reacts to this by bumbling incoherently on television each day, and when asked why his government didn't react quicker to take the strict measures necessary at the beginning of the story, he has a meltdown and blames the press/the BBC/all liberals. 

On top of that, a year down the line and for decades to come, the price has to be paid for government's largesse today. Benefits are cut, local services are decimated, and the poorest in society are again targeted by the Tories. 

Events of the last few years have been impossible to predict, yet you think you can predict the future ? LOL.

Away back to The Great Brit*sh menu or whatever you crack one off to. 

Edited March 22, 2020 by Bob Mahelp

[Cowden Cowboy]

This is BritNat fuckwittery in all its rancid glory. 
We're only at the beginning of this crisis. Let's imagine a scenario where over the next couple of months we have thousands of deaths on an Italian scale, leading to a complete shutdown of the country. 
Johnson reacts to this by bumbling incoherently on television each day, and when asked why his government didn't react quicker to take the strict measures necessary at the beginning of the story, he has a meltdown and blames the press/the BBC/all liberals. 
On top of that, a year down the line and for decades to come, the price has to be paid for government's largesse today. Benefits are cut, local services are decimated, and the poorest in society are again targeted by the Tories. 
Events of the last few years have been impossible to predict, yet you think you can predict the future ? LOL.
Away back to The Great Brit*sh menu or whatever you crack one off to. 

One man's largesse is another's vital lifeline

[Mastermind]

15 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

This is BritNat fuckwittery in all its rancid glory. 

We're only at the beginning of this crisis. Let's imagine a scenario where over the next couple of months we have thousands of deaths on an Italian scale, leading to a complete shutdown of the country. 

Johnson reacts to this by bumbling incoherently on television each day, and when asked why his government didn't react quicker to take the strict measures necessary at the beginning of the story, he has a meltdown and blames the press/the BBC/all liberals. 

On top of that, a year down the line and for decades to come, the price has to be paid for government's largesse today. Benefits are cut, local services are decimated, and the poorest in society are again targeted by the Tories. 

Events of the last few years have been impossible to predict, yet you think you can predict the future ? LOL.

Away back to The Great Brit*sh menu or whatever you crack one off to. 

Having a meltdown and blaming the press and BBC. That one sounds very familiar.

[Cowden Cowboy]

Exactly. We have had to have 10 years of austerity enacted by Westminter govts, who insisted this was for the greater good.
This last week in politics has revealed it was all an ideologically driven lie. The money was always their. There was no need to impoverish the people!!!!
Dirty lying Westminter c@nts.
And certain rockets think that the last week will turn folk off independence. [emoji23]
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The money wasn't always there - same as anyone else if you can't afford it you can't pay for it but in an emergency you are forced to borrow it from somewhere - then one day you have to pay it back

[AUFC90]

 

 

 

 

The money wasn't always there - same as anyone else if you can't afford it you can't pay for it but in an emergency you are forced to borrow it from somewhere - then one day you have to pay it back

 

Ok. Fact is the magic money tree that everyone said Labour were in fantasyland about does in fact exist and it's fucking huge. The genie is out the bottle. Wouldn't surprise me though if we just suck up the next round of austerity to "pay it back ".

 

The UK will never pay its debt back. It would be insane to do that.

 

 

 

[Bairn Necessities]

2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

The economic consequences of this crisis are unknown. The only thing that anyone can say for certain is that they will be long-lasting and deep, deep, deep. 

To press ahead with Brexit to satisfy some kind of insane ideology, would be irresponsible beyond belief. It has to be pushed back, and everyone knows it.  Johnson is just too terrified to say it as he knows he'll incur the wrath of the right-wing press. 

Temporarily maybe, and even then its not clear that a lot of negotiations can't take place over Teams . Plenty companies are managing to do that. 

I've got no problem delaying it a few months. Got a lot of problems with people trying to use this to reverse it.