Malky3 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, hearthammer said: Hello? I'm definitely a Saint! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The tories will get a majority, too many I'm alright Jack home counties c***s and thick breadline racists who would rather die in a ditch with nae meds than have a funny tinge treat them. Think the tories up here will keep about a half dozen seats due to blue rinse bigots, sevco and English ex-pats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: That's my thinking. Even Alistair Jack hinted today that an Independence majority in Holyrood in 2021 would justify signing section 30. You can have your referendum... if you can win an indy majority... in the 2021 HOLYROOD ELECTIONS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: That's my thinking. Even Alistair Jack hinted today that an Independence majority in Holyrood in 2021 would justify signing section 30. Not as simple as that. He said it has to be an SNP majority, not a majority in holyrood. In a system specifically designed to prevent such a scenario, when the SNP are likely to win a higher vote.share than the UK government will. And we're supposed to just accept he sets the rules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 A couple of interesting articles from our Catalan comrades one of which was probably posted a while back but still very relevant, https://www.catalannews.com/politics/item/spain-vetoed-catalan-parliament-visit-to-scotland-before-april-election https://www.catalannews.com/politics/item/spain-fires-edinburgh-consul-after-scottish-independence-comments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 We all know FPTP is a discredited system. To that end even if we get 50+ SNP MPs I don’t think that gives the party a mandate for a further Referendum. However If pro-Independence parties get 50% + 1 of the votes cast the mandate is undeniable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: However If pro-Independence parties get 50% + 1 of the votes cast the mandate is undeniable. We should already be independent then seeing as the SNP+ScotGreens got at least 51% of the vote in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: Kenny Farquharson seems to be saying he wants to kick Tories out and of course is blaming the SNP for this not happening in advance but... Kenny Farquharson wanting us to believe he wants rid of Tories seems a very odd proposition. "Why aren't the nationalists voting for Labour?!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Donald Dewar would be spinning in his grave if he knew how inept Labour are not just in Scotland, but over the past decade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 19:16, BawWatchin said: We should already be independent then seeing as the SNP+ScotGreens got at least 51% of the vote in 2015. In an election where the SNP manifesto stated "it was not about Independence" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I suspect fewer Labour voters would tactically vote Tory to screw the SNP this time around, with Boris and a hard brexit at stake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: I suspect fewer Labour voters would tactically vote Tory to screw the SNP this time around, with Boris and a hard brexit at stake. Not convinced there'd be that many. It's the union at all costs to majority of the Yoons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Malky3 said: In an election where the SNP manifesto stated "it was not about Independence" Ah, but all of the others parties were like "this is all about stopping independence". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: A week without posts, what has happened to our resident regurgitron? I think he has got lost in cyberspace and has washed ashore on another political sub forum (DS) Scotland faces a dire future at the moment, I absolutely fear for the future as the SNP have this almost extremist drive towards Independence , that eats up all in its path..... you cannot simply wash £13 billion of a deficit away, and their best answer is rampant immigration!!!! Our public services cant cope as it is , and you cannot move in the streets of Glasgow or Edinburgh for homeless people. The SNP believe they can win Independence with hope, a wing and a prayer.They are excellent at Social Media propaganda....... if or when they get their independence the last person to leave Scotland wont need to turn the lights out, as there wont be any money to keep them on..... I certainly wont be hanging around to see it- already myself and hard working employees are taxed more than elsewhere in the UK .... I remain in Scotland unless the worst happens as I love my country and I value deeply our bonds with the UK ( as does MOST of the Scottish population, Nicola!!) I still have belief that sheer common sense can win out this Independence lunacy... but it needs a much much stronger voice!!!! Or he may just have been told by History woman that there are not enough dunderheids to buy his shit on P&B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 10:04, MixuFixit said: Kenny Farquharson seems to be saying he wants to kick Tories out and of course is blaming the SNP for this not happening in advance but... Kenny Farquharson wanting us to believe he wants rid of Tories seems a very odd proposition. I see Kenny was on Twitter the other day telling people to vote SNP where they have a better chance of kicking the Tories out (everywhere). Nobodies a no hoper! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utter Roaster Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, MixuFixit said: A week without posts, what has happened to our resident regurgitron? Maybe had a trip to Edinburgh so when he posts a sackful of mail to every fucking newspaper in the country under his pen names Martin Redfearn or Jill Stephenson they'll have an authentic postmark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The odious embarrassment of Stirling that is Stephen Kerr just had an appearance on Sunday politics Scotland. No more referendums on anything ever apparently. According to him they are far too complex for the public. The issues should be for parliament to determine. Why did Brewer no spear him by asking if he would respect the result of a Scottish parliament vote? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said: The odious embarrassment of Stirling that is Stephen Kerr just had an appearance on Sunday politics Scotland. No more referendums on anything ever apparently. According to him they are far too complex for the public. The issues should be for parliament to determine. Why did Brewer no spear him by asking if he would respect the result of a Scottish parliament vote? Presumably he meant a proper parliament like Westminster, not a glorified council meeting like Holyrood. That seems to be quite a popular line with the Tories. He's getting his jotters in a few days anyway, so he might have actually been honest and come out with it. I guess we'll never know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) It's a bit of a strange future of the independence cause tonight. A Labour victory in some way would mean that independence support probably wouldn't move much but a legally binding referendum in some form in the next three years or so would be far more likely, but a Tory majority would make a referendum far less likely, but would almost certainly give support for Yes a real boost. Edited December 12, 2019 by Highland Capital 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptistist Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Not in a generation or another one now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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