Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, AUFC90 said: The UK government insisted from the outset it didn't want freedom of movement. It could have pursued a soft Brexit but wanted to appease a minority of racists. Basically they thought they could keep the good bits and lose the bad bits and were roundly told to get to f**k. If a no deal happens and a hard border is the result it will be down to racist c***s in England and morons such as yourself who makes excuses for them. Here we go again. If ever a question is asked that Nationalists can't answer the best thing to do is resort to anti-English xenophobia and to abuse any Scot who voted against Scottish Independence. Is that debating strategy in some sort of Wings manual? Of course in Scotland we don't have any problems with racism. We're far too consumed in sectarianism and xenophobia to worry about that shit aren't we? As I said we could have had a Withdrawal Agreement that kept an open border with the ROI but the Scottish Nationalists kept on voting it down. This has been a strategic disaster for the nationalist cause - hasn't it? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 10 hours ago, BawWatchin said: I disagree. The continued backstop issue over Ireland stimulates it's push towards reunification and the ultimate break up of the United Kingdom. Strategically sound from our First Minister tbh. Eh? Is that the sound of a mask or a balaclava slipping? Its done nothing of the sort. Sturgeon had the Soft Brexit she said was best for all Scots in her hands. She rejected it. Now a hard Brexit looks inevitable and if Scotland ever won its Independence within Europe - which is a real contradiction in terms - Scotland would have to erect and man a border no one wants. The SNP aren't interested in whats best for Scotland only whats best for their careers. Its sad really -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Sturgeon had the Soft Brexit she said was best for all Scots in her hands. She rejected it. Now a hard Brexit looks inevitable and if Scotland ever won its Independence within Europe - which is a real contradiction in terms - Scotland would have to erect and man a border no one wants. The SNP aren't interested in whats best for Scotland only whats best for their careers. Its sad reallyLies. Sturgeon has always said no Brexit is the best for Scotland. Also there’s nothing contradictory between independence from the UK and an independent Scotland within the EU, it’s two entirely different scenarios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Malky off to a cracking start this morning. A no deal brexit will be Nicola Sturgeon's fault. A spicy hot take indeed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Lies. Sturgeon has always said no Brexit is the best for Scotland. Also there’s nothing contradictory between independence from the UK and an independent Scotland within the EU, it’s two entirely different scenarios. As usual he's factually wrong. It's the Labour party leadership who wanted a soft Brexit, Keir Starmer said they had nothing against the WA, just that they'd would never vote for a Tory Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I must've missed the bit where the SNP voting for the WA would have meant a soft Brexit. How on earth can no custom union, no single market and no freedom of movement = a soft Brexit? The Tory red lines mean there can't be a soft Brexit - it might well be a "softer" Brexit than a no deal departure but to say we've missed out on a soft Brexit because the SNP voted against the WA is ludicrous imo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Malky3 said: We're far too consumed in sectarianism 1 hour ago, Malky3 said: Eh? Is that the sound of a balaclava slipping? just so you know, I'm most likely not alone in skimming the surface of your posts as this type of trolling holes you well below the waterline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MONKMAN said: Lies. Sturgeon has always said no Brexit is the best for Scotland. Also there’s nothing contradictory between independence from the UK and an independent Scotland within the EU, it’s two entirely different scenarios. Sturgeon has always called for remaining in a customs union. On the 28th of March 2019 the House of Commons had a second round of indicative votes. One of those votes was on a motion raised by Conservative MP Ken Clarke. The motion said the government must “ensure that any Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration negotiated with the EU must include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU”. Parliament voted 273 for, 276 against. The SNP abstained! With that vote Ian Blackford and his team of performing seals blew away the one opportunity to ensure Scotland remained in a customs union - a key demand of Sturgeon since the EU Referendum result. The SNP isn't interested in what is best for Scotland, they are only interested in how to get a second Independence Referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, dee_62 said: I must've missed the bit where the SNP voting for the WA would have meant a soft Brexit. How on earth can no custom union, no single market and no freedom of movement = a soft Brexit? The Tory red lines mean there can't be a soft Brexit - it might well be a "softer" Brexit than a no deal departure but to say we've missed out on a soft Brexit because the SNP voted against the WA is ludicrous imo. Bollocks! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, sophia said: just so you know, I'm most likely not alone in skimming the surface of your posts as this type of trolling holes you well below the waterline. Really. I guess you think I should have turned a blind eye to the Nationalist who claims that Irish reunification is a reason to back a Hard Brexit? You have made two contributions on this thread since I started posting here, and both of them have been clear attempts at trolling me. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Sturgeon has always called for remaining in a customs union, the single market and the EU. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Well. Its annual laugh at GERs day. I see this year with 8.9% of the UK population, Scotland is apportioned 53% of UK deficit. Indeed if you add up the the combined deficit of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland it amounts to over 100% of total UK deficit The books have been overcooked somewhat this year. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I'm beginning to think whoever said Malky is McSpreader is right. He really is unbelievably thick and has far too much time on his hands, ticks all the boxes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: Well. Its annual laugh at GERs day. I see this year with 8.9% of the UK population, Scotland is apportioned 53% of UK deficit. Indeed if you add up the the combined deficit of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland it amounts to over 100% of total UK deficit The books have been overcooked somewhat this year. The highest National Deficit in Europe and one of the largest in the Western World. As I've said it's up to the nationalists to present their plan to replace the services that the UK Government charge for in these GERS figures. So far there has been no alternative and no costings. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Malky3 said: The highest National Deficit in Europe and one of the largest in the Western World. As I've said it's up to the nationalists to present their plan to replace the services that the UK Government charge for in these GERS figures. So far there has been no alternative and no costings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Malky3 said: Eh? Is that the sound of a mask or a balaclava slipping? Its done nothing of the sort. Sturgeon had the Soft Brexit she said was best for all Scots in her hands. She rejected it. Now a hard Brexit looks inevitable and if Scotland ever won its Independence within Europe - which is a real contradiction in terms - Scotland would have to erect and man a border no one wants. The SNP aren't interested in whats best for Scotland only whats best for their careers. Its sad really Scotland didn't vote for a "soft brexit" m8..... or Theresa Mays hard brexit deal. Glad the SNP could help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Malky3 said: The highest National Deficit in Europe and one of the largest in the Western World. As I've said it's up to the nationalists to present their plan to replace the services that the UK Government charge for in these GERS figures. So far there has been no alternative and no costings. When added to the deficits they claim Wales and Northern Ireland have, it amounts to over 100% of the UK deficit. Read that and let it sink in for a moment...... actually, give yourself a few additional moments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Bollocks! Stunning - thanks for that articulate rebuttal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Malky3 said: The highest National Deficit in Europe and one of the largest in the Western World. As I've said it's up to the nationalists to present their plan to replace the services that the UK Government charge for in these GERS figures. So far there has been no alternative and no costings. Do you really believe that? The fact that Scotland and Wales deficit combined exceeds that of the UK tells us all you need to know about the reliability of these figures. Perhaps its time the good people of England took back control, the other nations of the UK are clearly the cause of their austerity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Well. Its annual laugh at GERs day. I see this year with 8.9% of the UK population, Scotland is apportioned 53% of UK deficit.[emoji23] Indeed if you add up the the combined deficit of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland it amounts to over 100% of total UK deficit [emoji848][emoji23] The books have been overcooked somewhat this year. Maybe somedy’s left the cooker on overnight one too many times? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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