Wee Bully Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Yet they increased the tax rate and raised less than they forecast. Are you sure they know what they are doing? Yes - Think they do. They are very aware that they can't get too out of kilter with the rest of the UK. No-one (sensible) is going to move for £5k a year. Make it £20-30k, and they absolutely will. On the forecast - the whole UK has raised less than forecast - but you knew that already, didn't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Malky3 said: Tell me how any political party would mitigate the effects of austerity that would be forced on the country through Sterlingisation? As for pharmaceuticals - Donald Trump has already stated that they would be quick to offer the UK a trade deal. I believe they too make medicines and medical supplies I'm sure the US can't wait to strike up some trade deals with the UK, especially in medicine. That's where the big bucks are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Kudos to anyone that can be arsed reading this Malky3 character's posts in full [emoji23]I don't see them initially because he's on ignore - just wish folks would stop quoting the roaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Malky3 said: Its interesting to note also that the SNPs Scottish tax raised less than a third of what they had forecast and the Westminster government had to bail them out. You are really becoming quite tiresome in your desire to get noticed. This claim was rubbished by Fraser of Allander economists weeks ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I'm sure the US can't wait to strike up some trade deals with the UK, especially in medicine. That's where the big bucks are.But have committed to only doing a trade deal if the irish border remains unchanged, hard border = a commitment from congress to block a deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) Scottish Fiscal Commission https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackayhttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackay Summary £1Bn black hole in the SNP budget Scottish Economy lags behind the rest of the UK. Modest wage increases compared to rest of UK Tax rises inevitable And to add to that there's a separate issue where Derek MacKay is now refusing to commit to an increase in Personal Allowance for Scottish tax payers - the increase the SNP pledged when raising the tax rate for Scottish workers. And yet still the nationalist lemmings want to take Scotland over the edge of a cliff. Edited August 5, 2019 by Malky3 -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 What a tedious cnut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Scottish Fiscal Commission https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackayhttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackay Summary £1Bn black hole in the SNP budget Scottish Economy lags behind the rest of the UK. Modest wage increases compared to rest of UK Tax rises inevitable And to add to that there's a separate issue where Derek MacKay is now refusing to commit to an increase in Personal Allowance for Scottish tax payers - the increase the SNP pledged when raising the tax rate for Scottish workers. And yet still the nationalist lemmings want to take Scotland over the edge of a cliff. Reserved, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, EvilScotsman said: Reserved, no? You can create an additional 0% band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, renton said: You can create an additional 0% band. Ah, cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Malky3 said: Very good, answering a question with a question. So here goes. If you have identified the conditions that created the underclass what were they? When did these conditions start? And what would be so radically different with an Independent Scotland that it will eradicate the underclass and a need for food banks / parcels / donations? They wouldn't just "disappear" in the night would they? 1/The condition that created the underclass was wilful neglect by the ruling classes of the UK. 2/These conditions have always been in place. It suits the ruling classes to have a pool of cheap labour in place. 3/Nobody said they would disappear overnight but we would be better placed to take care of the citizens of Scotland if it was an independent state. Again: How does a continuation of the conditions that created the underclass help the underclass? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Malky3 said: Scottish Fiscal Commission https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackayhttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134256/snp-tax-hikes-scotland-next-financial-year-budget-deficit-derek-mackay Summary £1Bn black hole in the SNP budget Scottish Economy lags behind the rest of the UK. Modest wage increases compared to rest of UK Tax rises inevitable And to add to that there's a separate issue where Derek MacKay is now refusing to commit to an increase in Personal Allowance for Scottish tax payers - the increase the SNP pledged when raising the tax rate for Scottish workers. And yet still the nationalist lemmings want to take Scotland over the edge of a cliff. Fraser of Allander rubbishes income tax bailout claim https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17792820.fraser-allander-rubbishes-income-tax-bailout-claim/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: But have committed to only doing a trade deal if the irish border remains unchanged, hard border = a commitment from congress to block a deal. I'm sure it would be the easiest deal in history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: 1/The condition that created the underclass was wilful neglect by the ruling classes of the UK. 2/These conditions have always been in place. It suits the ruling classes to have a pool of cheap labour in place. 3/Nobody said they would disappear overnight but we would be better placed to take care of the citizens of Scotland if it was an independent state. Again: How does a continuation of the conditions that created the underclass help the underclass? 1. Yep 2. Yep 3. How? Seriously, what is it about Scotland's businessmen, politicians and gentry that makes you think Scotland would do anything any differently? Even the SNP's White Paper didn't propose any changes to the benefits system. To answer your question - fairs fair and all that - I think there will always be an underclass. Some people are just happy to be in that category. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Fraser of Allander rubbishes income tax bailout claim https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17792820.fraser-allander-rubbishes-income-tax-bailout-claim/ It's an argument over terminology rather than the figures. The £1Bn funding gap is undisputed. The fact that the income tax increase did not provide the expected increase in overall tax take is undisputed. The only thing that is disputed is on what basis the extra £700m was given to the Scottish Government. The Conservative Parties own website describes it as a risk sharing agreement where the UK Government had agreed in advance to assist if the SNP had a shortfall. As part of the Union the money wasn't going to come from anywhere else was it? But what it does show is that the SNP are not competent enough to run an Independent Scotland. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Malky3 said: It's an argument over terminology rather than the figures. The £1Bn funding gap is undisputed. The fact that the income tax increase did not provide the expected increase in overall tax take is undisputed. The only thing that is disputed is on what basis the extra £700m was given to the Scottish Government. The Conservative Parties own website describes it as a risk sharing agreement where the UK Government had agreed in advance to assist if the SNP had a shortfall. As part of the Union the money wasn't going to come from anywhere else was it? But what it does show is that the SNP are not competent enough to run an Independent Scotland. It doesn't show any of those things as Fraser of Allender have pointed out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 People still quoting and responding to Malky Shower of fucking mutants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: It doesn't show any of those things as Fraser of Allender have pointed out. Really - from the article Quote Figures released last week showed that the Scottish Government raised £941 million less than it had forecast, Quote April 2017 saw the Scottish government start using new powers to set the rates and bands for income tax in Scotland, with a new system in place to amend the longstanding Barnett Formula. This recalculates the block grant Scotland receives from Westminster by subtracting money raised from devolved taxes. However, a "reconciliation" process is built into the system which would limit the amount of funding Scotland could lose. Quote Instead of the expected £941 million being subtracted from the block grant it was only reduced by £737 million - reducing the funding shortfall to £204million. Edited August 5, 2019 by Malky3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Malky3 said: Really - from the article "To argue that Scotland has been ‘bailed out’ to the tune of over £700m because of a slump in the Scottish economy is clearly wrong. And the use of the phrase ‘additional funding’ is odd." "Yes, there is a reconciliation gap to the tune of £204m that Scottish Government now needs to manage (not to mention potential further negative reconciliations in the future), but that’s it." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It's all getting very heated up in here. Time for a musical interlude that we can all appreciate, albeit for very different reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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