johnnydun Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, philyerboots said: She's is Christ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 18 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Actually I wonder if an original philyerpants will be worth anything in the future. Do you do signed copies? I don't think he has ever came up with anything original. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Phils art will go down in history as well as Hitlers imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyerboots Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Remember that time Phil tried to use actual words in this thread? What a time to be alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Are the Gradualists in the SNP holding back the Yes movement or are they right to be cautious on indyref2? We have people like Andrew Wilson for instance. He's saying we should adopt a softly, softly approach and kick the can down the road until we know we would win. Should we go all guns blazing as we have the possibility of a chaotic Brexit, a calamitous Tory party tearing itself apart, a dud opposition leader in Corbyn, a Labour party tearing itself apart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Are the Gradualists in the SNP holding back the Yes movement or are they right to be cautious on indyref2? We have people like Andrew Wilson for instance. He's saying we should adopt a softly, softly approach and kick the can down the road until we know we would win. Should we go all guns blazing as we have the possibility of a chaotic Brexit, a calamitous Tory party tearing itself apart, a dud opposition leader in Corbyn, a Labour party tearing itself apart? I'm of the opinion that we need to wait until the decision on Brexit. If IndyRef2 isn't called in the event of a no deal then to put it mildly I would be more than a touch disappointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, I'm Brian said: I'm of the opinion that we need to wait until the decision on Brexit. If IndyRef2 isn't called in the event of a no deal then to put it mildly I would be more than a touch disappointed This, a no-deal brexit is the quickest way to independence. Was round at my folks the other day and the news was on in the background, after another Theresa May fiasco my step-dad announced he's done with Westminster rule and will be voting yes next time. Something I never thought I'd hear him say, although my mum is still a no voting fud who believes everything she hears from the mainstream media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Does Nicola have to literally kick a can down the road,film it and distribute it through the usual mediums before the penny drops with some people on here ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Loondave1 said: Does Nicola have to literally kick a can down the road,film it and distribute it through the usual mediums before the penny drops with some people on here ? Only if the film starred the dugs from Look Who's Talking Now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'm of the opinion that we need to wait until the decision on Brexit. If IndyRef2 isn't called in the event of a no deal then to put it mildly I would be more than a touch disappointedIm beginning to think that we’re gonnae shite it again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Remember that time Phil tried to use actual words in this thread? What a time to be alive [emoji38]And got absolutely schooled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Im beginning to think that we’re gonnae shite it again. It's the Scottish way. Nation of utter shitebags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 12/02/2019 at 11:37, MixuFixit said: All the different fonts remind me of an 1890s advert for some cure-all tincture. A bit Daily Expressy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, I'm Brian said: I'm of the opinion that we need to wait until the decision on Brexit. If IndyRef2 isn't called in the event of a no deal then to put it mildly I would be more than a touch disappointed Will TM allow it, though? Don't we need 'permission' from our masters to have a referendum? She knocked Sturgeon back just after the brexit ref. Edited February 16, 2019 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Will TM allow it, though? Don't we need 'permission' from our masters to have a referendum? She knocked Sturgeon back just after the brexit ref.If there is a No Deal Brexit or a Hard Brexit then the first step would be to have a section 30 order - I'm sure the Greens would back that as before.If May denies it then the SNP and the Greens should vote for fresh Scottish Elections with both parties having an explicit commitment to IndyRef2.Obviously the hard Unionist vote would gravitate to the Tories - it's where the softer Labour vote went that matters - I know a lot of Labour folk who are completely dissatisfied with their stance on Brexit.Can't see any other route to IndyRef2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Will TM allow it, though? Don't we need 'permission' from our masters to have a referendum? She knocked Sturgeon back just after the brexit ref.Hold a 'consultative' referendum with the same level of binding legal force as the EU referendum. If the will of the people has to be respected in one, it surely has to be in the other. If some Yoons decide not to participate to withhold legitimacy then all the better, I still think we'd get a 60%+ turnout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said: Will TM allow it, though? Don't we need 'permission' from our masters to have a referendum? She knocked Sturgeon back just after the brexit ref. The $64000 question. If she doesn't, which I accept is a distinct possibility given her showing on Brexit, then IMO she's a fool. There is a democratic mandate to hold another vote and circumstances will have changed sufficiently to justify it. As stated above, just have another vote at Holyrood to ensure the will of parliament is still there, which it will be. If she still digs her heels in then 'Grievance Politics' will be ramped up to Warp Factor 10. If now isn't the time Theresa...when is? Edited February 16, 2019 by I'm Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: If there is a No Deal Brexit or a Hard Brexit then the first step would be to have a section 30 order - I'm sure the Greens would back that as before. If May denies it then the SNP and the Greens should vote for fresh Scottish Elections with both parties having an explicit commitment to IndyRef2. Obviously the hard Unionist vote would gravitate to the Tories - it's where the softer Labour vote went that matters - I know a lot of Labour folk who are completely dissatisfied with their stance on Brexit. Can't see any other route to IndyRef2. Going by the current mood any Scottish elections based on independence could see Sturgeon lose her day job never an independence mandate. The silent majority would pick the best horse in each area to stop that happening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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