When will indyref2 happen?

[git-intae-thum]

"We want our country back"

[speckled tangerine]

On 04/02/2019 at 13:07, BawWatchin said:

I disagree.

What they need are catchy slogans. Slogans that don't make them think too hard but stick in their heads.

Eating out of bins? Martial law? Queen fucked off to Canada?

'mon tae f**k Scotland. Time for Indy.

[BFTD]

23 hours ago, DAFC. said:

How about just, Sexy?

IMO, outlawing portmanteau would be just, Hunnybuns.

[Frank Grimes]

I was just reading about this 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum

At least we aren’t alone in our shitebaggery 

Edited February 6, 2019 by Frank Grimes

[Kejan]

45 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said:

I was just reading about this 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum

At least we aren’t alone in our shitebaggery 

It was the white settlers that won it.

[cyderspaceman]

On 04/02/2019 at 12:04, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I couldnt give any less of a f**k about a border with England. A hard border with them and EU membership would be a price worth paying. We’ll just use that frictionless stuff that the tories say exists that doesnt actually exist.

If, by some amazing, unlikely miracle, the UK government finds a way to keep a soft, open border on Ireland after brexit  (I hope brexit doesn't happen ) would it not mean there could be a  similar border between an independent Scotland (in the EU) and England?    

Sorry if already mentioned, I haven't been keeping up.

[Anonapersona]

8 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

If, by some amazing, unlikely miracle, the UK government finds a way to keep a soft, open border on Ireland after brexit  (I hope brexit doesn't happen ) would it not mean there could be a  similar border between an independent Scotland (in the EU) and England?    

Sorry if already mentioned, I haven't been keeping up.

A successful Scotland will further highlight the sheer incompetence of Westminster. Even more than Brexit.

Cannae have that.

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

If, by some amazing, unlikely miracle, the UK government finds a way to keep a soft, open border on Ireland after brexit  (I hope brexit doesn't happen ) would it not mean there could be a  similar border between an independent Scotland (in the EU) and England?    
Sorry if already mentioned, I haven't been keeping up.

Yes. Plenty of countries have such arrangements.

[G_&_T]

I voted before 2030, which covers the first three answers. 

[Daydream]

Are we England’s biggest trading partner?

[JamieThomas]

28 minutes ago, Daydream said:

Are we England’s biggest trading partner?

Until they sign that lucrative soda ash deal with Botswana.

[lichtgilphead]

36 minutes ago, Daydream said:

Are we England’s biggest trading partner?

Yeah, we supply them with cheap power & water and they give us a share of the debt they've run up.

It's a brilliant union dividend 

[SandyCromarty]

17 hours ago, Daydream said:

Are we England’s biggest trading partner?

Yes, we traded too many Scottish lives in two world wars, for what?

To continue to be economically  no lube arse raped year after year  while billions are spent on London and the South of England  major rail projects alone.

[DA Baracus]

17 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Yes, we traded too many Scottish lives in two world wars, for what?

To continue to be economically  no lube arse raped year after year  while billions are spent on London and the South of England  major rail projects alone.

To stop genocide and halt a fascist regime from conquering Europe and slaughtering millions more and enforcing their evil rule on millions of people.

[BawWatchin]

46 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

To stop genocide and halt a fascist regime from conquering Europe and slaughtering millions more and enforcing their evil rule on millions of people.

Thank feck for those Russians. Top top lads.

[SandyCromarty]

3 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

To stop genocide and halt a fascist regime from conquering Europe and slaughtering millions more and enforcing their evil rule on millions of people.

I suggest you read the respected military historian Antony Beevor's book on WW2,  where you will soon realise that  the absolute destruction of the Nazi regime was down to the  Russian  offensive onslaught from late 1943 until they entered Berlin.

The Russians were the first into the heart of Nazism not the combined Allied armies on the western front, their ferocity once they entered Germany was in retaliation to the  to the scorched earth policy of the Nazi's on attacking Russia, the suicides of Hitler and Himmler was  the fear of ' Ivan ist kommen'. 

The British offensive from Normandy to Caen was severely  hampered by Montgomery's delaying indecisivenss and pomposity  which infuriated  Bradley his american counterpart whose american divisions surged ahead , his incompetence at this point was  glaringly obvious though the english MI5 spinners of the time and his use of the english press hid this, many are not aware that his victory over Rommel was accomplished  by  Free French troops, Indian Regiments, new Zealanders and South Africans though these are mostly ignored given rise to the propagrandist legend that only British troops were involved.

I do not in anyway take away from the absolute at times heroism of  british troops during the war, especially the 51st Highland Division, but it was a World War and to suggest and assume that England  was one of the primary players instead of being one nation  taking part reduces the participation of many other nations and partisans of those invaded countries.

As a BTW many present europeans are unaware that Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary were German mobilised armies, in fact even the SS were taken aback  by Romanian  atrocities in the Ukraine against the Jews.    

      

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

Indyref2 thread for this pish.

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

I suggest you read the respected military historian Antony Beevor's book on WW2,  where you will soon realise that  the absolute destruction of the Nazi regime was down to the  Russian  offensive onslaught from late 1943 until they entered Berlin.

The Russians were the first into the heart of Nazism not the combined Allied armies on the western front, their ferocity once they entered Germany was in retaliation to the  to the scorched earth policy of the Nazi's on attacking Russia, the suicides of Hitler and Himmler was  the fear of ' Ivan ist kommen'. 

The British offensive from Normandy to Caen was severely  hampered by Montgomery's delaying indecisivenss and pomposity  which infuriated  Bradley his american counterpart whose american divisions surged ahead , his incompetence at this point was  glaringly obvious though the english MI5 spinners of the time and his use of the english press hid this, many are not aware that his victory over Rommel was accomplished  by  Free French troops, Indian Regiments, new Zealanders and South Africans though these are mostly ignored given rise to the propagrandist legend that only British troops were involved.

I do not in anyway take away from the absolute at times heroism of  british troops during the war, especially the 51st Highland Division, but it was a World War and to suggest and assume that England  was one of the primary players instead of being one nation  taking part reduces the participation of many other nations and partisans of those invaded countries.

As a BTW many present europeans are unaware that Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary were German mobilised armies, in fact even the SS were taken aback  by Romanian  atrocities in the Ukraine against the Jews.    

      

I wish I'd had the chance to tell my Dad he needn't have bothered before he died. If Rommel had got past El Alamein and secured the Middle Eastern oil supplies, it's possible the Germans would have had another supply route to their armies in Russia. Bit of a stretch perhaps, but I like to think my Dad did his bit. I'd also suggest the RAF defeating the German invasion plans of Britain were of significance.

Edited February 9, 2019 by welshbairn

[AUFC90]

I wish I'd had the chance to tell my Dad he needn't have bothered before he died. If Rommel had got past El Alamein and secured the Middle Eastern oil supplies, it's possible the Germans would have had another supply route to their armies in Russia. Bit of a stretch perhaps, but I like to think my Dad did his bit. I'd also suggest the RAF defeating the German invasion plans of Britain were of significance.

The RAF delayed the invasion but if Hitler wasn't so stupid by opening up an Eastern Front they would have invaded at some point.

 

[John Lambies Doos]

The RAF delayed the invasion but if Hitler wasn't so stupid by opening up an Eastern Front they would have invaded at some point.  

His major mistake