Detournement Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 There is a difference between Harvie saying he favours independence in principle and backing Indyref2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Absolutely seething. He's not tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Listening to Alison Thewliss in parliament sounds like she is doing a National 5 English exam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 As I am convinced that we won't leave the EU for a good while, if ever, it makes it much more difficult for Sturgeon to decide when to trigger a referendum.It can only be called when a final decision on Brexit is reached. Still not convinced that Article 50 will get extended not unless there is a significant move towards a softer Brexit - May is so stubborn you just can't see her doing that. Much that I'd like a second EU referendum there appears to be little appetite on either front bench for it. The ironic thing is that I suspect that there is a majority in Parliament for a softer Brexit or a second referendum but the assholes driving the agenda won't let it happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If the UK doesn't leave the EU then Scotland will not leave the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 And how do you figure this out? I'm of the opinion that it's highly unlikely to happen any time soon given that the Scottish parliament, to my knowledge, lacks the power to unilaterally call a referendum, and needs to obtain a section 30 order from the UK government to do so (like the 2012 Edinburgh agreeement) and I can't see Theresa May awarding holyrood this power any time soon. Best chance it does happen is probably a UK GE results in a hung parliament with Labour as the largest party and the SNP enter a coalition with Corbyn with the concession being a section 30 order. But I completely fail to understand the 2030 relevance? I don’t agree with H_B but Labour will probably attempt to neuter any SNP pressure by arguing that if they demand too much then they risk allowing the Tories to resume control of the government. I think if Corbyn was even a tenth as dictatorial as people believed he was then the SNP would have a referendum given as he probably agrees in principle with allowing self-determination. It’s that he’s given the branch office a fairly substantial amount of autonomy that the party at large have become intransigent towards it. Sturgeon "matter of weeks" [emoji6]February 1st declaration and I’m calling you a fraud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Middle / end of July. The clusterfuck UK option will be biting amongst the zombies who don't follow the news....leaving only a 15-20% hardcore WATP types to laugh at when their delusional masters of the empire pish comes to a glorious halt. I'll go for the 11th. It is on a Thursday this year, which is when these elections / referendums are usually held. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, wirez said: Middle / end of July. I'll go for the 11th. It is on a Thursday this year, which is when these elections / referendums are usually held. Great idea The good guys can celebrate on the day after 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, sophia said: Great idea The good guys can celebrate on the day after Aye. I thought it would make a fitting end to the old and in with the new 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Loondave1 said: 11 hours ago, NotThePars said: Hasn’t colkitto predicted the end of January? Fair play, there’s just over a fortnight to go. No year specified though, so maybe a very long fortnight ahead. If it wasn't for that daft bint in No.10 delaying the vote for no reason then my prediction would have probably been spot on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If it wasn't for that daft bint in No.10 delaying the vote for no reason then my prediction would have probably been spot onIf you discounted said daft bint acting out Hitlers bunker scene more fool you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, NotThePars said: February 1st declaration and I’m calling you a fraud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Loondave1 said: 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: If it wasn't for that daft bint in No.10 delaying the vote for no reason then my prediction would have probably been spot on If you discounted said daft bint acting out Hitlers bunker scene more fool you. Fool me once.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Whats the chances of the SNP agreeing to back a brexit lite in exchange for indy 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Whats the chances of the SNP agreeing to back a brexit lite in exchange for indy 2? Zero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I used to be really, really pessimistic about Scotland voting Yes in another referendum. Now I believe it is definitely happening, and quite soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) There is no chance the UK is leaving the EU at the end of March, which probably puts Sturgeons independence announcement on the backburner. Edited January 16, 2019 by sparky88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, sparky88 said: There is no chance the UK is leaving the EU at the end of March, which probably puts Sturgeons independence announcement on the backburner. It's not up to the UK though, that power is held within the EU parliament. If they say the UK is leaving at the end of March, then the UK is leaving at the end of March. Even if the stiff upper lip 'we're big bad britain' mentalists think otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, sparky88 said: There is no chance the UK is leaving the EU at the end of March, which probably puts Sturgeons independence announcement on the backburner. If the MPs from both sides of the house don't stage a major revolt against their leaders, I think they will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2021 will be the 14th year of SNP administrations. To repeat the 2016 result would be a great achievement (and it's not even guaranteed there is currently a majority for Indyref2 as the Greens are very vague).Patrick Harvey showing at FMQ's today how vague the greens are on independence 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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