Crùbag Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 NATION Norway now on You Tube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Crùbag said: Sorry to piss on your parade... or actually I'm cock a hoop. Survation back up the SNP tweets: Majority for Indy. It's moving our way. That's what the nationalists were saying in the referendum. But on the day when people got to the polling booth it resulted in a crushing defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: That's what the nationalists were saying in the referendum. But on the day when people got to the polling booth it resulted in a crushing defeat. Because it was moving our way. We came from the low 20's to the mid 40's. Now polls showing 45 to 50 plus. Surely you can see where this is going? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Because it was moving our way. We came from the low 20's to the mid 40's. Now polls showing 45 to 50 plus. Surely you can see where this is going?Given the absolute mess that Westminster is in at present, particularly with regards to Brexit (plus a clear remain majority in Scotland), wouldn’t you expect a massive surge towards indyref2 and a Yes vote. It doesn’t appear to be the case just yet, seriously why is that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Colkitto said: Because it was moving our way. We came from the low 20's to the mid 40's. Now polls showing 45 to 50 plus. Surely you can see where this is going? I would say this is due to the mess we have over Brexit rather than a surge in a wish for independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Given the absolute mess that Westminster is in at present, particularly with regards to Brexit (plus a clear remain majority in Scotland), wouldn’t you expect a massive surge towards indyref2 and a Yes vote. It doesn’t appear to be the case just yet, seriously why is that? It is a shambles but a shambles that is yet to reach a conclusion. People will wait to find out what we get first. If we remain in the CU/SM i can't see an indyref2 happening. if it's a no deal scenario and people see real negative effects to their lives then the polls will shift and an indyref2 will happen. Even then it's still too close to call. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: It is a shambles but a shambles that is yet to reach a conclusion. People will wait to find out what we get first. If we remain in the CU/SM i can't see an indyref2 happening. if it's a no deal scenario and people see real negative effects to their lives then the polls will shift and an indyref2 will happen. Even then it's still too close to call. When we exit with or without a deal the people of Scotland will shelter under the Union Jack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: It is a shambles but a shambles that is yet to reach a conclusion. People will wait to find out what we get first. If we remain in the CU/SM i can't see an indyref2 happening. if it's a no deal scenario and people see real negative effects to their lives then the polls will shift and an indyref2 will happen. Even then it's still too close to call. If the UK stay in the CU/SM independence would be far less complicated. A hard brexit would give far more hurdles, negotiating reentry or staying in the EU while keeping unrestricted trade with the rUK would make the Irish border question seem like a doddle to sort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, new kyd in town said: When we exit with or without a deal the people of Scotland will shelter under the Union Jack. Quite literally after they have lost their jobs and can't pay the mortgage. Who was it that said "you can't eat a flag" again? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Given the absolute mess that Westminster is in at present, particularly with regards to Brexit (plus a clear remain majority in Scotland), wouldn’t you expect a massive surge towards indyref2 and a Yes vote. It doesn’t appear to be the case just yet, seriously why is that? I don’t think there’s an easy answer to that but part of it IMO is to do with the negativity and xenophobia that drove (and is still driving) the Leave supporters. Im not saying all those who voted Leave are all xenophobes but I think a proportion of them are and that proportion is larger than the 4% difference between the two sets of voters. People who mistakenly blame unemployment and social decline on immigration are driven to vote as they have by negativity and that is easier to inspire than positivity which I believe is spurring the YES campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I don’t think there’s an easy answer to that but part of it IMO is to do with the negativity and xenophobia that drove (and is still driving) the Leave supporters. Im not saying all those who voted Leave are all xenophobes but I think a proportion of them are and that proportion is larger than the 4% difference between the two sets of voters.You voted leave, didn’t you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, new kyd in town said: When we exit with or without a deal the people of Scotland will shite on the Union Jack. FTFYM8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I would say this is due to the mess we have over Brexit rather than a surge in a wish for independence. Better to live under a mess than allow Scotland the hideous blight of statehood? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Enigma said: You voted leave, didn’t you? How do you know that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, BawWatchin said: FTFYM8 Thank you BawWatchin. What do you get out of watchin yer baws? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Given the absolute mess that Westminster is in at present, particularly with regards to Brexit (plus a clear remain majority in Scotland), wouldn’t you expect a massive surge towards indyref2 and a Yes vote. It doesn’t appear to be the case just yet, seriously why is that? Polls like the above don't include EU voters or 15 - 17 yos who'll have a vote when the time comes. Don't you agree that EU residents are likely to vote, massively, in favour of I-Scot in the EU and that young voters tend to favour Indy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, new kyd in town said: Thank you BawWatchin. What do you get out of watchin yer baws? I get more pleasure out of watching my own bawsack than the bawsacks at Westminster on TV m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, speckled tangerine said: Quite literally after they have lost their jobs and can't pay the mortgage. Who was it that said "you can't eat a flag" again? I think it was Brian Christopher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new kyd in town Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: I get more pleasure out of watching my own bawsack than the bawsacks at Westminster on TV m8. Or those Bawsacks sitting in Holyrood too. You must have an impressive scrotum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, new kyd in town said: Or those Bawsacks sitting in Holyrood too. You must have an impressive scrotum. It's the right testicle at Holyrood I can't stand to look at. The left testicle is fine though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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