harry94 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 15 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Actually I am pretty sure there is serious study going on into crypto voting atm. If they could promise security, it could be a great step forward and change voter participation dramatically.......and there would be no more dodgy postal voting patterns, electoral roll's or allegations of ballot boxes going missing. SLabour party will be opposed What dodgy voting patterns/electoral polls/ballot boxes going missing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Except she hasn't moved her office out of Govanhill! Dixon road runs parallel with the dreaded Allison st in the heart of Govanhill. Nicola of course is super popular there winning nearly 2/3rds of the vote. You're a fucking idiot. How many hits and misses is it now from philthespacebetweenhisears? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 20 hours ago, The new Kia Ceed said: Except she hasn't moved her office out of Govanhill! Dixon road runs parallel with the dreaded Allison st in the heart of Govanhill. Nicola of course is super popular there winning nearly 2/3rds of the vote. You're a fucking idiot. Can folk just ignore this obvious piss poor troll and stop quoting/responding to him. FTFY I have c***s like this on ignore but have to keep seeing their posts as people stupidly take the bait. Just fucking ignore him and his ilk and they will go away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 13 hours ago, harry94 said: What dodgy voting patterns/electoral polls/ballot boxes going missing? Rumours of.... postal votes filling themselves out. Not a rumour.... the actual electoral register did go missing, never to be seen again, after the Glenrothes bye election....this after dodgy postal voting patterns had been pointed out. Daft rumours..of indyref ballot boxes getting dumped/swapped. Crypto voting would likely put an end to any of this (rumoured) nonsense. Obviously digital security rumours may well displace the paper rumour mill. The question will be if these digital security concerns can be overcome, to allow the likely increase in young person participation expected from an introduction of the cryptovote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hmmmm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 HmmmmAh now it makes sense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Hmmmm Britnats are either too stupid to notice the irony....or they just don't care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo: First Blood Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Hmmmm To compare either the UK or the EU to the USSR is ridiculous and immoral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Britnats are either too stupid to notice the irony....or they just don't care. They don’t see the UK as a union of nations. It was never designed as a union of nations. Read virtually any Victorian literature or political discourse to see just how deeply ingrained was the idea that Scotland was simply a part of England (and had been since 1707). It was a second-rate part, of course, with only a limited number of Scotch lords, for example, being allowed entry to the English upper house. The “union” and “unionist” chat only really emerged with regard to Scotland after Ireland had the balls to grab sovereignty in 1922. It’s only re-emerged with a vengeance to try and placate/fool the bolshy northern Britons who started getting ideas above their station regarding Scotland being a country distinguishable from England. Tell the filthy urchins it’s a “precious precious union”, let them wave a flag, and they’ll drag their knuckles all the way to perpetual Mundellitude, what? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 They don’t see the UK as a union of nations. It was never designed as a union of nations. Read virtually any Victorian literature or political discourse to see just how deeply ingrained was the idea that Scotland was simply a part of England (and had been since 1707). It was a second-rate part, of course, with only a limited number of Scotch lords, for example, being allowed entry to the English upper house. The “union” and “unionist” chat only really emerged with regard to Scotland after Ireland had the balls to grab sovereignty in 1922. It’s only re-emerged with a vengeance to try and placate/fool the bolshy northern Britons who started getting ideas above their station regarding Scotland being a country distinguishable from England. Tell the filthy urchins it’s a “precious precious union”, let them wave a flag, and they’ll drag their knuckles all the way to perpetual Mundellitude, what?If it wasn’t a union of nations then what was it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The new Kia Ceed Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Hmmmm Ruth Davidson completely flip-flopping from this in 2016 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/03/ruth-davidson-next-pm-should-not-block-scottish-independence-ref/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, NotThePars said: If it wasn’t a union of nations then what was it? A Greater England. Britain North and South. As to undemocratic unions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 A Greater England. Britain North and South. As to undemocratic unions...So a unitary nation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 aye, WHEN WILL INDYREF2 HAPPEN THOUGH? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: If it wasn’t a union of nations then what was it? An incorporation of nations into one single nation: an amalgamation, or unification. The treaty itself explicitly stated that the two kingdoms should be “united forever after into one kingdom, Great Britain”. Throughout the two centuries following the treaty, though, that nation was still frequently referred to as England. Scots had achieved English status - albeit they weren’t in the first tier of that hallowed status. Still, it was more than the Irish got when they were wrapped in the strong arms of their own union. The hijacking of the term “union” and “unionist” in Scottish politics is about as useful in modern terms as considering the Anschluss (or “joining”) of Austria to Germany a unionist project. The “unionist” in the “Conservative and Unionist Party” didn’t even mean Scotland - it meant the union between Great Britain (or England, with Scotland absorbed) and Ireland. It’s interesting to read even stuff like Wilkie Collins’ “Moonstone” and see the Scottish characters declare themselves English. Edited October 1, 2018 by Antlion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Antlion said: An incorporation of nations into one single nation: an amalgamation, or unification. The treaty itself explicitly stated that the two kingdoms should be “united forever after into one kingdom, Great Britain”. Throughout the two centuries following the treaty, though, that nation was still frequently referred to as England. Scots had achieved English status - albeit they weren’t in the first tier of that hallowed status. Still, it was more than the Irish got when they were wrapped in the strong arms of their own union. I still here people, people from USA mostly, say England when they mean UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, NotThePars said: So a unitary nation? Pretty sure there was a bit of legal debate around all this prior to the 2014 referendum. I would have to do a bit of digging to find the paper but..... In general the (English) legal consensus seemed to to be that in 1707 the question as to whether the nation state of England ceased to exist was unresolved, however the 1707 act most certainly did cause the extinction of the nation state of Scotland. The britnat legal argument would therefore seem to hold that Scotland was consumed into either a greater England or new enlarged nation.....but in any case ended in 1707. Mibbes explains a bit better some of the opinions and assumptions that infuriate Scots so much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said: Pretty sure there was a bit of legal debate around all this prior to the 2014 referendum. I would have to do a bit of digging to find the paper but..... In general the (English) legal consensus seemed to to be that in 1707 the question as to whether the nation state of England ceased to exist was unresolved, however the 1707 act most certainly did cause the extinction of the nation state of Scotland. The britnat legal argument would therefore seem to hold that Scotland was consumed into either a greater England or new enlarged nation.....but in any case ended in 1707. Mibbes explains a bit better some of the opinions and assumptions that infuriate Scots so much. some Scots. Minority of people in Scotland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I still here people, people from USA mostly, say England when they mean UK. That's really fascinating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, jupe1407 said: 4 minutes ago, Jambo99 said: I still here people, people from USA mostly, say England when they mean UK. That's really fascinating. Nice to see you back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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