John Lambies Doos Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Sturgeon has said she will "consider it in the autumn". Not exactly fighting talk.So they are discussing it then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 With just about the entire Westminster civil service swamped with working on the Brexit debacle, and probably Holyrood too, there is no chance of an indy ref until after Brexit is resolved one way or another. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: Problem with this is that if the SNP are seen to be threatening the Corbyn minority government in anyway they will be lambasted as the Tartan Torys. There will also be the huge arguement that Scotland is leading the UK based on propping up a labour government. Arguement of little control, shut up and eat your cereal goes away. If we can't win a referendum now when we have no say whatsoever and are shackled to an absolute brexit mess with the threat of a BoJo prime minister; not to mention a very friendly Scotland EU... We never will Now is the time... I notice that you conveniently ignored the ‘permission’ issue I raised. Is it too inconvenient for you to address? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Look at this bellend here increased by 20%How did you manage that? Asking for a friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I notice that you conveniently ignored the ‘permission’ issue I raised. Is it too inconvenient for you to address? Nope I did notice it; I'm sure given a future outwith the EU Vs Scotland wanting to be an independent EU country (ala SNP material change) this can be negotiated. Perhaps you wish to address all the other points I raised regarding a Labour minority propped up by SNP kingpins? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Granny Danger said: That is the big danger. I wonder who we should listen to on timing; you or the strategists in the SNP? Hard choice... The SNP strategists worded the letter stating between October this year and March next year you weapon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Stinky Bone said: Hold the referendum anyway, and if the result is yes, and westminster refuse to acknowledge it, f**k them. They can't bang us all up. If that happens unionists will boycott it the same as Catalonia. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Let them refuse.....and draw great attention to each refusal. This can only push Scottish public opinion one way. With repeat refusals, whats to stop the pro independence parties canvasing on a platform of the SP negotiating independence. If Westminter then refused to listen it would be a democratic outrage at least on a par with Spain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 18 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Let them refuse.....and draw great attention to each refusal. This can only push Scottish public opinion one way. With repeat refusals, whats to stop the pro independence parties canvasing on a platform of the SP negotiating independence. If Westminter then refused to listen it would be a democratic outrage at least on a par with Spain. I think a lot of undecideds would resent more upheaval while the chaos of Brexit is still going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 hours ago, ancientnoise said: Scotland - or The Scottish Government - doesn't have to seek "permission" to hold any referendum at any time, irrespective of the motion. Yeah then we will end up in a Catalonia type situation with regards to it’s effectiveness. We have to make sure that we are successful next time around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ancientnoise said: Idea for Indyref2: The YES campaign should just cheat and lie their way to victory. Then crowdfund the paltry fine handed out by the Electoral Commission. We will be up against bigger cheaters and liars with more resources and less scruples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The cheating has devalued the notion of any future referendums being coherent. Thatcher said a majority at an election would be enough. Thatcher was correct* * strange times, strange times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ancientnoise said: Idea for Indyref2: The YES campaign should just cheat and lie their way to victory. Then crowdfund the paltry fine handed out by the Electoral Commission. Or tell the electoral commission to go swivel as independent we wouldn't be under their auspices so they would have no authority to levy or collect a fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyerboots Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, ancientnoise said: Idea for Indyref2: The YES campaign should just cheat and lie their way to victory. Already been done. what else you got? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, philyerboots said: Already been done. what else you got? Unionists Are a bunch of 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, philyerboots said: Already been done. what else you got? Holy f**k are Yoons now moaning that people on lower income are paying less tax than before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Already been done. what else you got? Stick to the memes, mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, philyerboots said: Already been done. what else you got? They lowered the basic rate, you stupid f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: They lowered the basic rate, you stupid f**k. Lowered isn't frozen. Hoisted by your own petard there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 10 hours ago, ancientnoise said: Idea for Indyref2: The YES campaign should just cheat and lie their way to victory. Then crowdfund the paltry fine handed out by the Electoral Commission. Well if we cannot learn from Better together and the Brexit campaign then we are gonnae lose again. Seems you can tell as big a lie as you like and no repercussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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