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12 hours ago, stumigoo said:

Been doing the rounds on Twitter. Check the size of Leon Goretska pre and post lockdown! I’ve got bigger too but that’s mainly around the midriff.


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That first picture is Bayern’s old strip so although it was pre lockdown I think it was going back at least a year...not January 2020 as the media reported it.

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On 29/05/2020 at 11:23, Smurph said:

Game of the week is probably 1860 v Duisburg at 12pm Sunday.

Duisburg? More like Luisburg. 2-0 up and lose 3-2. Five points separate 1st and 11th place.

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Sancho gets his hat-trick and the boy who was square to him in a scoring position, upturns his hands as if to say, "Why didn't you pass to me?" What a dick. 



How does the Bundesliga stand on political messages .

The opposition looked substandard but I am at a loss to see how joining man united would be bettering himself .

Maybe he is a big fan of the Europa league
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Duisburg continuing to do everything in their powers to shit-fest their way from an easy league title to a mid table position, drawing 1-1 at home to Carl Zeiss Jena, who are considerably the worst team in the league.

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2 hours ago, Smurph said:

Duisburg continuing to do everything in their powers to shit-fest their way from an easy league title to a mid table position, drawing 1-1 at home to Carl Zeiss Jena, who are considerably the worst team in the league.

Fucking hell, that is one tight title race! Easily any of the top 10 has a chance. 

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3-0 for H96 against Dresden. Job done by half-time, ex Celt John Guidetti with the 2nd goal.

Bremen losing, plus also tanking their goal difference.

Also as indicated above by Ingo, Eintracht Braunschweig close to a promotion spot.

 

Bremen down, Braunschweig up & Hamburg 'Hibsing it' would be the dream of most pub/sports-bar owners in northern Germany.

Holstein Kiel

SV Hamburg

St. Pauli

VfL Osnabrück

Werder Bremen

Hannover 96

Eintracht Braunschweig

More or less guaranteed a Derby, Duell every weekend.

 

Next up for H96, home to Heidenheim, quite 'happy' for them to drop points if it fücks up Hamburg.

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11 hours ago, Ingo ohne Flamingo said:

Fucking hell, that is one tight title race! Easily any of the top 10 has a chance. 

After MD18, Duisburg were 6 points ahead of Ingolstadt in 2nd. Since then they have W2 D5 L4. They'll be very lucky to be anywhere near it. Anyone's game at the moment.

Are Bayern Munich Colts allowed promotion?

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3 hours ago, Smurph said:

After MD18, Duisburg were 6 points ahead of Ingolstadt in 2nd. Since then they have W2 D5 L4. They'll be very lucky to be anywhere near it. Anyone's game at the moment.

Are Bayern Munich Colts allowed promotion?

As far as I'm aware Liga 3 is the highest any colts team can go. 

Was on a train in Germany heading to a Borussia game, Duisburg were also at home that day and as I was travelling from Kevelaer there was fans from both teams and the banter was brilliant. At one point a Gladbach fan started slagging MSV for being in the 2nd Liga for the MSV fan to correct him by saying 3rd liga prompting the train to fall into stitches of laughter 😂😂

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On 31/05/2020 at 15:47, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

The cardboard fans in Gladbach actually make the empty stadium look far better. St Johnstone were on to something all those years ago.

interesting (well - a bit) stuff here - wonder if this will manifest itself across the other european leagues as they get underway ?

 

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Bundesliga: 'Ghost games' have killed home advantage

Since the Bundesliga has returned without fans, home teams are winning only 20% of the time. This phenomenon puts smaller clubs at a disadvantage — and could play a part in the relegation battle.

    

 

Fussball - SC Freiburg - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (picture-alliance/M. Gilliar)

Could Schalke have played differently on Saturday with 60,000 fans behind them as they chased an equalizer that never came against Werder Bremen? Freiburg, Mainz and Wolfsburg also suffered home defeats this weekend and, who knows, maybe the Yellow Wall may have been the difference between Borussia Dortmund, the Bundesliga's strongest home team until this weekend, staying in the title race and dropping out of it.

The curse of the home team is a recent phenomenon and a symptom of the "Geisterspiele" (ghost games) era that the Bundesliga has opted for. Put aside for a moment the fan culture that makes German football so special or the important role clubs play in their communities, the presence of fans in the stadium can help turn defeats into ties, and ties into wins.

So far since the Bundesliga restart, the numbers support the theory. Only seven home games have been won from 33 since the Bundesliga returned two weeks ago - a phenomenal number that puts the home win ratio at just 21%, almost half the season average of 40%. The post-hiatus away win ratio is 48%, up 11% on the season average.

There are some away wins that have been inevitable, of course, and one could make the case that none of the away victories seen on matchday 29 were that unexpected. But this is a trend that shows no signs of abating, as long as fans are not allowed in, and begs the fundamental question: Are ghost games fair?

Freiburg head coach Christian Streich recently said: "For us [smaller teams] the absence of fans hurts us more than it does the top teams."

And teams at the bottom of the table hosting teams at the top — see RB Leipzig's thrashing of Mainz for example — could be seen as unfair on Mainz, whose relegation rivals have already had the chance to play Leipzig at home with fans present and, in Eintracht Frankfurt's case, beaten them.

Werder Bremen, who are battling against relegation, still have to host Bayern, with their chances of victory seemingly further reduced by the absence of fans. While we will never know what the outcome of these games would have been with home teams pushing them on, the statistics suggest a disadvantage.

Ghost games have been sold as a necessary evil in order to bring the game back to the people, but with home teams feeling like guests in their own stadiums, this phenomenon is another reminder that this isn't football as we know it.

 

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Quite a small sample to be fair - in Bundesliga 2 so far there's been 16 home wins and 8 away wins with the rest draws.

On a separate note, crowd noise being pumped in for Leverkusen v Bayern - feels worse than nothing for me, doesn't even change when Leverkusen go in front so is more distracting than anything else.
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6 minutes ago, true_rover said:

Quite a small sample to be fair - in Bundesliga 2 so far there's been 16 home wins and 8 away wins with the rest draws.

On a separate note, crowd noise being pumped in for Leverkusen v Bayern - feels worse than nothing for me, doesn't even change when Leverkusen go in front so is more distracting than anything else.

It must be pumped in by the TV company as there's none on my entirely legitimate stream.

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