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First round of the DFB-Pokal over the weekend. Most games went as expected but a couple of upsets.

3rd division Mannheim knocking out Eintracht Frankfurt

3rd division Osnabrück knocking out Werder Bremen (2nd division this year)

One game still to be played, namely Bremer against Bayern Munich. Due to a Corona outbreak in the Bremer squad plus Munich's other commitments, the game won't be played until the 25th August. Draw for the 2nd round will take place on the 29th.

2nd round games take place over the last weekend in August.

 

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2 hours ago, German Jag said:

Draw for the 2nd round will take place on the 29th.

2nd round games take place over the last weekend in August.

Did you mean 19th as 29th is the Sunday of that last weekend. 

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5 hours ago, Eednud said:

Did you mean 19th as 29th is the Sunday of that last weekend. 

Sorry, draw is on Sunday 29th August. Common practice in Germany to have the draw on a Sunday evening once the last set of games have been played earlier in the day. The 2nd round games themselves take place on the weekend of 26/27th October.

Forgot to mention. Wolfsburg defeated Preussen Münster 3-1 after extra-time, but whilst doing so made 6 substitutions (5 are allowed this season). Münster have lodged an official complaint (getting through to the next round is worth 257.000 €uro). Tribunal to decide where the blame lies, with referee & his assistants or with Wolfsburg. 

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Sorry, draw is on Sunday 29th August. Common practice in Germany to have the draw on a Sunday evening once the last set of games have been played earlier in the day. The 2nd round games themselves take place on the weekend of 26/27th October.
Forgot to mention. Wolfsburg defeated Preussen Münster 3-1 after extra-time, but whilst doing so made 6 substitutions (5 are allowed this season). Münster have lodged an official complaint (getting through to the next round is worth 257.000 €uro). Tribunal to decide where the blame lies, with referee & his assistants or with Wolfsburg. 
Are teams not allowed the standard extra sub in extra time or were they all made in the 90 minutes?
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1 hour ago, true_rover said:
4 hours ago, German Jag said:
Sorry, draw is on Sunday 29th August. Common practice in Germany to have the draw on a Sunday evening once the last set of games have been played earlier in the day. The 2nd round games themselves take place on the weekend of 26/27th October.
Forgot to mention. Wolfsburg defeated Preussen Münster 3-1 after extra-time, but whilst doing so made 6 substitutions (5 are allowed this season). Münster have lodged an official complaint (getting through to the next round is worth 257.000 €uro). Tribunal to decide where the blame lies, with referee & his assistants or with Wolfsburg. 

Are teams not allowed the standard extra sub in extra time or were they all made in the 90 minutes?

Nope.

The rule in question for this season's cup states ""Five players may be substitued during the game. An additional substitution beyond this, in games with extra-time is not permitted."

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Hamburger Stadtderby has been v good, St Pauli being made to pay for missing so many good chances with the equaliser.  Jatta having some game for HSV, boy is flying. 

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Two goals and three assists for Haland. Can't believe that permacrock Kane is still getting touted for £140 million to Man City, when you could solve your centre forward position for a decade by signing him for less. 

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Gerd Müller has passed away aged 75

Legendary German striker Gerd Müller has died aged 75. The forward scored 68 goals in 62 appearances for West Germany, including the winning goal in the 1974 World Cup final against Holland.

During 15 years at Bayern, Muller netted a record 365 goals in 427 Bundesliga games and 66 goals in 74 European matches.

Bayern president Herbert Hainer said in statement: “Today is a sad, dark day for FC Bayern and all its fans. Gerd Müller was the greatest striker there’s ever been, and a fine person and character of world football. We’re all united in deep mourning with his wife Uschi as well as his family. FC Bayern wouldn’t be the club we all love today without Gerd Müller. His name and memory will live on forever.”

Müller began his career at TSV Nördlingen, scoring well over a goal a game in Germany’s lower divisions before joining Bayern in 1964, when the club was in the second tier. Thirty-three league goals in his first season helped restore the club to the Bundesliga, and within four years Bayern were German champions, a title they won four times in five years. More impressive still was their stretch of three European Cup wins in a row, from 1974-76, to which Müller contributed 18 goals including three in two finals.

In his 15 years at Bayern, Muller was the Bundesliga’s top scorer seven times, the German football of the year twice and the recipient of the Ballon d’Or once, in 1970. He left in 1979 to follow the likes of Pelé and George Best to the North American Soccer League, where he played three seasons for Fort Lauderdale Strikers, before returning to Bayern as a coach. He remains the Bundesliga’s all-time top scorer.

Müller’s feats on the international stage were no less impressive. After making his debut in 1966, he quickly racked up goals at a rate of over one a game, including 10 at the 1970 World Cup and eight hat-tricks. His last appearance for Germany was the 1974 World Cup final, held at Bayern’s Olympiastadion, where he scored the winning goal in a 2-1 win to make his country world champions. His record of 68 international goals for Germany stood for four decades, until Miroslav Klose surpassed it in 2014 (though Klose took 132 games to Müller’s 62).

In 2015 Bayern announced in a statement that Müller had Alzheimer’s disease.

Bayern CEO Oliver Kahn also paid tribute: “The news of Gerd Müller’s death deeply saddens us all. He’s one of the greatest legends in the history of FC Bayern, his achievements are unrivalled to this day and will forever be a part of the great history of FC Bayern and all of German football. As a player and a person, Gerd Müller stands for FC Bayern and its development into one of the biggest clubs in the world like no other. Gerd will forever be in our hearts.”

Bastian Schweinsteiger, another former Bayern star and Germany World Cup winner, said on Twitter: “Thank you, Gerd! Without this man, FC Bayern would not be like it is today and most of our careers would probably not have been possible. My thoughts are with his family, I am grateful to call him one of my coaches.”

The former England striker Gary Lineker tweeted: “Very sorry to hear that Gerd Muller has passed away. Loved watching him as a child and learnt so much from doing so. The greatest penalty box goalscorer I’ve ever seen.”

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On 10/08/2021 at 10:42, German Jag said:

Nope.

The rule in question for this season's cup states ""Five players may be substitued during the game. An additional substitution beyond this, in games with extra-time is not permitted."

2 days ago the DFB decided in favour of Münster. Wolfsburg given 24 hours to react, which they did at the last minute by lodging a protest. No idea when the next decision will be made. 

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Gladbach having an absolute nightmare at Leverkusen - 4 down, with Sommer scoring an own goal hitting him after the post as well as another two going through his hands. The other deflected past him as well.

Also 4 players off injured, very much whatever could go wrong did.

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