topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Little Big Horn. Gettysburg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Father of shooter has videos online supporting the Pakistani Taliban. The father is at it. Clearly the Orlando shooter wasn't alone if there's a 2nd guy in LA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Thanks, I didn't know that. I'd say I'm surprised that the number of states which don't allow folk to arm themselves whilst drinking in a bar is that low but I'd be lying. Obama's due to make a statement in a few minutes. He'll no doubt talk about the need for stricter gun counter, higher magazine-capacity bans etc. But as per, sweet f**k all will be done about it. I think many of the states which do allow guns in bars have a legal limit for blood alcohol content when you are carrying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I don't think Islam is more intolerant than Christianity more they just haven't had to row back their opinion in the face of secularisation. But I do accept that these communities have a real problem. Based on what? I've referred in the politics forum to an extensive survey of Muslims in the UK (one of the more tolerant countries IMO) that shows a shocking level of homophobia. I've not seen an equivalent level amongst any survey of Christians; if you have maybe you could point me to it. I realise in referring to Muslims and Christians I am not disaggregating into sects of either religion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Little Big Horn. Which would also be a great name for a gay club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Don't accuse me of saying something I didn't say. There are plenty of homophobia that is not religiously 'inspired'. However there is a greater degree of homophobia amongst religious folk and certain religions, including Islam, are far more homophobic than others. I don't think Islam is more intolerant than Christianity more they just haven't had to row back their opinion in the face of secularisation. But I do accept that these communities have a real problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 When will Njord be supplying the 'worst mass shooting in the US' of which this one doesn't get 'close' to? When will he explain his 'doesn't matter that it's a gay club' comment? Edit - Njord autocorrects to 'abhorrent'. Quite fitting. Yet 'deeboy' autocorrect to '*** fucker'. Go figure. Except you're innumerate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Little Big Horn. Also a decent club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Apparently the phones on the dead bodies inside the night club are ringing constantly. Ugh! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Apparently the phones on the dead bodies inside the night club are ringing constantly. Ugh! What's wrong with that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Is it possible that the gunman will be found to have owned his assault rifle legally? I think it's entirely plausible. Murica 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I don't think Islam is more intolerant than Christianity more they just haven't had to row back their opinion in the face of secularisation. But I do accept that these communities have a real problem. Islam's problem is that Muhammad claims to be the last prophet. His word is the final word of God. And his word requires the execution of gays. There's no way to reform Islam while also staying true to it's essential teachings. A certain number of followers in any religion will end up down the fundamentalist rabbit hole. Islam has a problem because there's no way to go down that rabbit hole and still hold onto any type of belief in liberal society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Terrified family trying to contact loved ones would be heartbroken every time the phone goes to voicemail. Not that I am saying finding out they were killed would be better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yank Mike Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Is it possible that the gunman will be found to have owned his assault rifle legally? I think it's entirely plausible. Murica He was a security officer. He had both a personal carry permit and an enhanced permit because of his job. What's wrong with that? Just seems like it would be weird knowing that each call is from somebody hoping that their friend / family member is alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Yet 'deeboy' autocorrect to '*** fucker'. Go figure. Except you're innumerate. Avoiding the questions again? Drunk, homophobic gobshite. It's a shame you weren't the homeless boy in Marseille yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Is it possible that the gunman will be found to have owned his assault rifle legally? I think it's entirely plausible. Murica Seemingly he had 2 legally 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Terrified family trying to contact loved ones would be heartbroken every time the phone goes to voicemail. Not that I am saying finding out they were killed would be better. At least it doesn't disgust you like it seems to do to Yank Mike. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just seems like it would be weird knowing that each call is from somebody hoping that their friend / family member is alive. You're a moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Based on what? I've referred in the politics forum to an extensive survey of Muslims in the UK (one of the more tolerant countries IMO) that shows a shocking level of homophobia. I've not seen an equivalent level amongst any survey of Christians; if you have maybe you could point me to it. I realise in referring to Muslims and Christians I am not disaggregating into sects of either religion. Excuse the double post above but Uganda and other nations have attempted to instate the death penalty for Christians while wide parts of the west within living memory either criminalised the LGBT community or went further while places like the US have operated or continue to still operate conversion camps and therapy. There's plenty of indicators, particularly the further you go into the community (trans and other groups) that face real discrimination, physical assaults and even murder in the west while being denied basic amenities such as bathroom access. I think my point is that so far most of the things said by the people that knew the perpetrator have downplayed any religious role which maybe makes right wing commentators within the US more uncomfortable as it would force them to look at their own group if this attack was committed by what it could well have been. A rabid right wing gun fanatic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 What an utter fucking fanny Njord is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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