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Apparently cops every 10 feet on the parade but none checking roofs. Many American cities have 50% of their budget go to police. Not sure they keep anyone safe.

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Nicolas Toledo, 76, didn’t want to attend the Highland Park July 4th parade, but his disabilities required that he be around someone full-time. And the family wasn’t going to skip the parade — even going so far as positioning chairs for a choice viewing spot at midnight the night before.

Mr. Toledo was sitting in his wheelchair along the parade route, between his son and a nephew, when the bullets started flying. “We were all in shock,” Xochil Toledo, his granddaughter, said. “We thought it was part of the parade.”

Then, she said, “We realized our grandfather was hit. We saw blood and everything splattered onto us.”

Mr. Toledo suffered three gunshot wounds, killing him. His son and Ms. Toledo’s boyfriend were also shot, but their injuries were not life-threatening, the family said.

He had moved back to Highland Park a few months ago from Mexico at the urging of family members. He had been struck by a car while walking in Highland Park a few years ago in a prior stint living with family, and had a range of medical issues resulting from that accident.

“We brought him over here so he could have a better life,” Ms. Toledo said. “His sons wanted to take care of him and be more in his life, and then this tragedy happened.”

 

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Nicolas Toledo, 76, migrated between Mexico and the United States throughout his life, his family said. He was among those fatally shot in Highland Park. Ill., on Monday.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/07/04/us/highland-park-shooting-july-4-parade

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59 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

 The definition of radicalised Incel who's disappeared down the online rabbit hole.               https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-bobby-crimo-person-of-interest-in-highland-park-parade-massacre-is-rapper-with-creepy-videos.

There are probably as many heidbangers per head of population over here, but they dont have easy access to guns.

Its boring now, they should just stop reporting individual atrocities on the news and just have a weekly counter showing new and total deaths.

American authorities could stop this madness at a stroke, but even those who say they are "pro gun control" are not advocating anything as deep and wide enough to make a dent.

As for the people, if you elect these muppets, then you are getting  what you deserve (same as here tbh).

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There are probably as many heidbangers per head of population over here, but they dont have easy access to guns.



Definitely, different story if you could just wander into Tesco or Asda and buy an automatic rifle here, due to the fact they can't they just have to settle with making racist comments on facebook.
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58 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

There are probably as many heidbangers per head of population over here, but they dont have easy access to guns.

Its boring now, they should just stop reporting individual atrocities on the news and just have a weekly counter showing new and total deaths.

American authorities could stop this madness at a stroke, but even those who say they are "pro gun control" are not advocating anything as deep and wide enough to make a dent.

As for the people, if you elect these muppets, then you are getting  what you deserve (same as here tbh).

The bigger problem with the States outside the obvious how freely assault weapons are available is the lack of support structure for folk with mental health problems and fall back for people going through hard times. America is such a polarised place with haves and have nots. You loose your job they'll maybe give you some food stamps. You don't have insurance you'll get everything taken off you if you fall ill. It's dog eat dog on steroids. My cousin's man got cancer, once his works insurance ran out he had a crowd funder and was basically sent home to die. For how shit things have got here under the Tories I don't think we'll get to the stage of the US. This lack of empathy leads to hopelessness and I think that's why they have such problems with gun and crime in general. Folk who feel the world has nothing to offer are easily radicalised.

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17 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

The bigger problem with the States outside the obvious how freely assault weapons are available is the lack of support structure for folk with mental health problems and fall back for people going through hard times. America is such a polarised place with haves and have nots. You loose your job they'll maybe give you some food stamps. You don't have insurance you'll get everything taken off you if you fall ill. It's dog eat dog on steroids. My cousin's man got cancer, once his works insurance ran out he had a crowd funder and was basically sent home to die. For how shit things have got here under the Tories I don't think we'll get to the stage of the US. This lack of empathy leads to hopelessness and I think that's why they have such problems with gun and crime in general. Folk who feel the world has nothing to offer are easily radicalised.

To some degree, it's not so much that the USA is an outlier in some of the stuff mentioned above, rather that the UK is currently probably in the better than average group.  Where I am you get zilch support from the government and healthcare is realistically only available if you can afford it.  I just forked out for the MIL's cataract - the alternative was her going blind at some point - that's the reality in many countries. 

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13 minutes ago, hk blues said:

To some degree, it's not so much that the USA is an outlier in some of the stuff mentioned above, rather that the UK is currently probably in the better than average group.  Where I am you get zilch support from the government and healthcare is realistically only available if you can afford it.  I just forked out for the MIL's cataract - the alternative was her going blind at some point - that's the reality in many countries. 

Erm no, the USA is absolutely an outlier among the world's most developed countries. 

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9 minutes ago, hk blues said:

To some degree, it's not so much that the USA is an outlier in some of the stuff mentioned above, rather that the UK is currently probably in the better than average group.  Where I am you get zilch support from the government and healthcare is realistically only available if you can afford it.  I just forked out for the MIL's cataract - the alternative was her going blind at some point - that's the reality in many countries. 

I was more talking about the West/Europe as more comparabile countries to the US in economic/political/cultural similarities. I find out in Asia there is a far more solid community/family support system in place to assist folk through tough times and a lot less isolation.

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1 minute ago, virginton said:

Erm no, the USA is absolutely an outlier among the world's most developed countries. 

You have introduced a qualifier - naught boy!

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2 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

I was more talking about the West/Europe as more comparabile countries to the US in economic/political/cultural similarities. I find out in Asia there is a far more solid community/family support system in place to assist folk through tough times and a lot less isolation.

To some extent yes, and certainly much more than we'd find in the UK, but the stark fact that longevity in the Philippines (where I am) is 71 years which is a good 10 years compared to the UK perhaps suggests that that support mechanism is not necessarily working all that well.  Of course, longevity isn't the be all and end all but it's an indicator.

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4 hours ago, dirty dingus said:

 The definition of radicalised Incel who's disappeared down the online rabbit hole.               https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-bobby-crimo-person-of-interest-in-highland-park-parade-massacre-is-rapper-with-creepy-videos.

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His social-media footprint indicated that he is a video-game enthusiast and professional wrestling fan.

Ban them.

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2 hours ago, hk blues said:

You have introduced a qualifier - naught boy!

It's an entirely relevant qualifier. The United States has been the world's most dominant economic power for a full century. Stating that 'well things are actually worse in some shithole like the Philippines' is not a credible comparison then. 

In the OECD comprising 38 countries around the world - almost entirely under the umbrella of Western capitalism - the USA absolutely stinks the place out in terms of healthcare, social inequality and rampant homicide/gun violence rates. That's the relevant benchmark. 

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9 hours ago, dirty dingus said:

Not an across the board ban. Keep frogger and pac-man and just ban folding chairs, ladders and lycra that will keep wrestlings gas at a peep.

Many studies show that frogger players turn into jaywalkers.  Ban it.

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17 hours ago, virginton said:

It's an entirely relevant qualifier. The United States has been the world's most dominant economic power for a full century. Stating that 'well things are actually worse in some shithole like the Philippines' is not a credible comparison then. 

In the OECD comprising 38 countries around the world - almost entirely under the umbrella of Western capitalism - the USA absolutely stinks the place out in terms of healthcare, social inequality and rampant homicide/gun violence rates. That's the relevant benchmark. 

 

Aren't you from Greenock?

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1 hour ago, hk blues said:

Aren't you from Greenock?

Which is about 1000 times better than the fucking Philippines, by just about every single measure m8. 

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