Kuro Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Baltimore is 55.8 btw, just to give you an idea. And we think London is bad, that's 35 times as bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kuro said: The levels of poverty, crime and deprivation in the big cities are like nothing you would ever see anywhere in Western Europe, but only in certain areas and there's no reason a tourist would ever go to these areas. While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years. In Calton, Glasgow it is 54. So deprivation and poverty are arguable. Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old yet seem to be based on real studies. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632 https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It’s because of drug and gang wars though. Very localised. One thing I loved was the zero dickheads in bars, no hassle no dirty looks very welcoming. In a way guns make things safer and more civilised. Just don’t kick off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, BillyAnchor said: While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years. In Calton, Glasgow it is 54. So deprivation and poverty are arguable. Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old yet seem to be based on real studies. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632 https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ Again though, is that the entire west side of Chicago? Cause the gun crime is like ten areas in the west and south of the city, the rest is a modern highly developed rich first world city. Also in Scotland in a place like Calton lifestyle is going to be the main factor there, not violent crime. In Afghanistan and Iraq combined the US lost about 7000 soldiers, in the same time period over 8000 people were murdered in Chicago. 90% would be young black males and almost all in a dozen smallish areas. For these people they literally live in a warzone, for the other 3 million people in the city its like living in Edinburgh or somewhere like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, D.A.F.C said: It’s because of drug and gang wars though. Very localised. One thing I loved was the zero dickheads in bars, no hassle no dirty looks very welcoming. In a way guns make things safer and more civilised. Just don’t kick off. It is very localised, and it does make you think I would be much less likely to make an issue of something on a night out in the States than here cause the person you are arguing with may have a gun or very likely could get one pretty quickly in a lot of places. Most states you can't take them into bars though, only some. They're very friendly people you're right open welcoming polite good fun down to earth informal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Reports of someone driving around and shooting in Texas - multiple casualties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBo10 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Thoughts and prayers time again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Texas. The state with the highest total number of guns. Where are all the good guys with their guns now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I know us on P&B are quick with 'gallows humour' but this stuff is brutal. Innocent random people getting wiped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 It's alright, praying to God will fix everything. After all, the thoughts and prayers have done a sterling job so far. You have to read the whole thread on this tweet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 15/08/2019 at 22:27, BillyAnchor said: While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years. In Calton, Glasgow it is 54. So deprivation and poverty are arguable. Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old yet seem to be based on real studies. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632 https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ Calton has the Bellgrove Hotel which totally skews the statistics I imagine. Shettleston at around 67 in recent years seems like a more accurate and less sensationalist figure for the poor parts of Glasgow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, peasy23 said: It's alright, praying to God will fix everything. After all, the thoughts and prayers have done a sterling job so far. You have to read the whole thread on this tweet. In a ‘proper’ society this guy would get sectioned rather than elected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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101 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 People are dying every day and this is an elected officials position. If it wasn't so serious it would be funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Be WarnEd DoNt hAVe a SuPriSe pArTY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Adam101 said: Be WarnEd DoNt hAVe a SuPriSe pArTY Quote Girard Police Chief John Norman confirmed that the mom had a Concealed Carry Permit. “She had a gun readily available and she fired a round at someone coming through the door,” he told 21 News. Prosecutors have yet to decide if any charges will be pressed, Norman said. “If you realize someone has a gun for protection, and they’re not expecting you — announce yourself when you enter the home, or even if you’re getting up to get a drink of water in the middle of the night,” Norman said. https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/mom-accidentally-shoots-daughter-after-she-surprises-her-at-home/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The wife would have shot me years ago if we lived in the states. Accidentally, of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Not to distract from the madness that is America but a couple nights ago a guy shot himself near my flat in London. He came to off a different guy sat in a car on the high street and, depending who you believe, either (a) the shotgun pullets bounced off bullet proof glass back at him or (b) he tried to smash the glass with the shotgun butt and it blew off his face. There's video of his three mates in balaclavas wondering wtf to do after it. Apparently the guy he came to kill stood over his body and snapped it. The same high street had a burnt out car sitting in the middle of it for two days last week. Sydenham Road by the Lloyd's Bank if you're interested. I go to the Pure Gym just round the corner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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