welshbairn Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Apparently the second amendment covers weapons that have military use, so guns etc are OK but knuckle dusters, swords etc aren’t. I do wonder what would happen if (when) some survivalist, Waco/Ruby Ridge types get the money together to buy an armed drone. TB2s cost $1m which I’m sure some of them could rustle up. The missiles and control systems will cost a lot more. I'm sure they could rig up a $50 Walmart drone with a hand grenade. The ones IS used in Mosul were pretty basic but effective, apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm sure they could rig up a $50 Walmart drone with a hand grenade. The ones IS used in Mosul were pretty basic but effective, apparently. I look forward to the guest IS speaker at the next NRA convention 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, ICTChris said: Police called in Tulsa after a man carrying an AR15 rifle was seen walking in town. Turns out he hadn’t committed a crime under Oklahomas open carry laws. https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/broken-arrow-open-carry-incident-raises-law-enforcement-questions/article_a5f4a2d8-edb3-11ec-806d-bb938b4a6b13.html He was arrested for having brass knuckles though. Every county in Oklahoma voted for Trump. Need I say more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: Every county in Oklahoma voted for Trump. Need I say more. They Cain't say no! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Wait, what? The US Supreme Court has struck down a NY law that had restrictions on firearms outside the home, thereby making it easier to carry concealed and loaded handguns in public . Stetsons and spurs not yet a legal requirement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Wait, what? The US Supreme Court has struck down a NY law that had restrictions on firearms outside the home, thereby making it easier to carry concealed and loaded handguns in public . Stetsons and spurs not yet a legal requirement. Yep, the steady movement rightward on gun regulations continues. The “hallowed” Second Amendment references a “well regulated militia”, but since the Heller decision, that has been (legal) irrelevant. The rabidly pro-gun caucuses that can tolerate no regulation of guns continue to argue that the original text of the Second Amendment is important, other than that militia bit, and the fact that the weapons available in 1787 were an order of magnitude or two less efficient at killing than todays weapons. The simple fact is that AR-15’s are “sexy” in part at least a little because they have been used to blow people (including school children) to bits. The black plastic bullet shooting phallus crowd won’t admit it, but knowing how much damage an AR-15 can inflict is a key reason they fight to keep them available. There is no reason a 10 round magazine wouldn’t be sufficient for all legal civilian uses of an AR-15, but restricting these weapons below military capacity has proven to be dam near impossible because “BUT…”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 On 22/06/2022 at 15:45, ICTChris said: Police called in Tulsa after a man carrying an AR15 rifle was seen walking in town. Turns out he hadn’t committed a crime under Oklahomas open carry laws. https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/broken-arrow-open-carry-incident-raises-law-enforcement-questions/article_a5f4a2d8-edb3-11ec-806d-bb938b4a6b13.html He was arrested for having brass knuckles though. Actually thought that sheriff gave a very good account of the nuances and frustrations they felt around the open carry laws. Especially from a sheriff in OK. These gun fetishists are absolutely choking to be challenged, all a bunch of wee vl p***ks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 The 2nd Amendment must be followed at all costs because that's what the founding fathers decreed. Separation of church and state they didn't really mean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Wait, what? The US Supreme Court has struck down a NY law that had restrictions on firearms outside the home, thereby making it easier to carry concealed and loaded handguns in public . Stetsons and spurs not yet a legal requirement. I’m surprised that it was 6-3. What is needed is for the federal government to change the law(s) on guns. We all know that there’s no indication of serious changes but it’s at government level that it needs to be done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 All hail the New Founding Fathers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Wait, what? The US Supreme Court has struck down a NY law that had restrictions on firearms outside the home, thereby making it easier to carry concealed and loaded handguns in public . Stetsons and spurs not yet a legal requirement. I did see someone point out the obvious that the second amendment makes no reference about self defence. ”A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed It was written before the US had a standing army The Militia is essentially the National Guard, which is well regulated unlike your average gun buyer from Walmart Edited June 24, 2022 by Clown Job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Are they just ignoring the 'well regulated' part of the 2nd amendment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Clown Job said: the second amendment makes no reference about self defence. ”A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed That's the bit that gets me. The selective reading of a historical document that has become another of the Great American Myths. It's the go to response whenever another atrocity happens, the catch-all 'the right to bear arms'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 That's the bit that gets me. The selective reading of a historical document Just like religious nuts and their bibles? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Empty It said: Just like religious nuts and their bibles? The Bible is not a historical document...................................more like pre-science fiction which has served as a metaphorical template for much of modern literature and film-making. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Are the Supreme Court trying to make a country out of Gilead and a few John Wayne movies? Utter lunatics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Anyone got any figures comparing the number of babies aborted each year in the US compared to the number unlawfully killed by firearms? I’m curious to understand at what age your life is not to be protected anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Anyone got any figures comparing the number of babies aborted each year in the US compared to the number unlawfully killed by firearms? I’m curious to understand at what age your life is not to be protected anymore.Are you wanting to know how many newborns are killed by firearms or just the general pop? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: Are you wanting to know how many newborns are killed by firearms or just the general pop? Breakdown by age would be good. We could then see where the lines intersect and reach a conclusion. My gut tells me that before the time you leave high school America no longer gives a f**k about protecting your life. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was significantly before you left high school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Breakdown by age would be good. We could then see where the lines intersect and reach a conclusion. My gut tells me that before the time you leave high school America no longer gives a f**k about protecting your life. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was significantly before you left high school.I’d wager they don’t give a f**k about you at all; numerous pre-high school shootings show that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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