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21 minutes ago, Kuro said:

 The levels of poverty, crime and deprivation in the big cities are like nothing you would ever see anywhere in Western Europe, but only in certain areas and there's no reason a tourist would ever go to these areas.

While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years.

In Calton, Glasgow it is 54.  So deprivation and poverty are arguable.  

 

Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old  yet seem to be based on real studies.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ 

 

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Just now, BillyAnchor said:

While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years.

In Calton, Glasgow it is 54.  So deprivation and poverty are arguable.  

 

Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old  yet seem to be based on real studies.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ 

 

Again though, is that the entire west side of Chicago?  Cause the gun crime is like ten areas in the west and south of the city, the rest is a modern highly developed rich first world city.  Also in Scotland in a place like Calton lifestyle is going to be the main factor there, not violent crime.

In Afghanistan and Iraq combined the US lost about 7000 soldiers, in the same time period over 8000 people were murdered in Chicago.  90% would be young black males and almost all in a dozen smallish areas.  For these people they literally live in a warzone, for the other 3 million people in the city its like living in Edinburgh or somewhere like that.

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Just now, D.A.F.C said:

It’s because of drug and gang wars though. Very localised. One thing I loved was the zero dickheads in bars, no hassle no dirty looks very welcoming.

In a way guns make things safer and more civilised. Just don’t kick off.

:lol:

It is very localised, and it does make you think I would be much less likely to make an issue of something on a night out in the States than here cause the person you are arguing with may have a gun or very likely could get one pretty quickly in a lot of places.  Most states you can't take them into bars though, only some.  They're very friendly people you're right open welcoming polite good fun down to earth informal.  

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On 15/08/2019 at 22:27, BillyAnchor said:

While I tend to agree the chance of being the victim of a gun crime is very high in certain American 'ghettos' the average life expectancy in the West Side of Chicago (a notoriously violent gang ridden area) is 69 years.

In Calton, Glasgow it is 54.  So deprivation and poverty are arguable.  

 

Links are from less than 100% reputable sites and may be a few years old  yet seem to be based on real studies.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/men-in-glasgows-east-end-have-life-988632

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/chicago-west-side-residents-hospitals-aim-close-16-year-life-expectancy-gap/ 

 

Calton has the Bellgrove Hotel which totally skews the statistics I imagine. Shettleston at around 67 in recent years seems like a more accurate and less sensationalist figure for the poor parts of Glasgow.

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3 hours ago, peasy23 said:

It's alright, praying to God will fix everything. After all, the thoughts and prayers have done a sterling job so far. You have to read the whole thread on this tweet.
 

In a ‘proper’ society this guy would get sectioned rather than elected.

 

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1 hour ago, Adam101 said:

Be WarnEd DoNt hAVe a SuPriSe pArTY

 

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Girard Police Chief John Norman confirmed that the mom had a Concealed Carry Permit.

“She had a gun readily available and she fired a round at someone coming through the door,” he told 21 News.

Prosecutors have yet to decide if any charges will be pressed, Norman said.

“If you realize someone has a gun for protection, and they’re not expecting you — announce yourself when you enter the home, or even if you’re getting up to get a drink of water in the middle of the night,” Norman said.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/mom-accidentally-shoots-daughter-after-she-surprises-her-at-home/

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Not to distract from the madness that is America but a couple nights ago a guy shot himself near my flat in London. He came to off a different guy sat in a car on the high street and, depending who you believe, either (a) the shotgun pullets bounced off bullet proof glass back at him or (b) he tried to smash the glass with the shotgun butt and it blew off his face.

There's video of his three mates in balaclavas wondering wtf to do after it. Apparently the guy he came to kill stood over his body and snapped it.

The same high street had a burnt out car sitting in the middle of it for two days last week.

Sydenham Road by the Lloyd's Bank if you're interested. I go to the Pure Gym just round the corner.

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