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"You know, I never understood why you gun control people don't all join the NRA. They've got two million members. You bring three million to the next meeting, call a vote. All those in favour of tossing guns... bam! Move on."

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The senate has rejected the proposed gun controls measures put forward after the Orlando shooting.

 

Whether you agree with gun ownership or not these are clearly bought votes. The corruption in US politics is outrageous.

 

Filibustering people into a corner probably isn't the best way to reach agreement on the way forward.

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Scott Adams with the most scorching of hot takes. My face is burnt just from looking at it on my computer screen.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146307088451/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa

 

Why Gun Control Can’t Be Solved in the USA

Posted June 22nd, 2016 @ 9:17am in #Trump #clinton2016

On average, Democrats (that’s my team*) use guns for shooting the innocent. We call that crime.

On average, Republicans use guns for sporting purposes and self-defense.

If you don’t believe me, you can check the statistics on the Internet that don’t exist. At least I couldn’t find any that looked credible. 

But we do know that race and poverty are correlated. And we know that poverty and crime are correlated. And we know that race and political affiliation are correlated. Therefore, my team (Clinton) is more likely to use guns to shoot innocent people, whereas the other team (Trump) is more likely to use guns for sporting and defense.

That’s a gross generalization. Obviously. Your town might be totally different. 

So it seems to me that gun control can’t be solved because Democrats are using guns to kill each other – and want it to stop – whereas Republicans are using guns to defend against Democrats. Psychologically, those are different risk profiles. And you can’t reconcile those interests, except on the margins. For example, both sides might agree that rocket launchers are a step too far. But Democrats are unlikely to talk Republicans out of gun ownership because it comes off as â€œPut down your gun so I can shoot you.â€

Let’s all take a deep breath and shake off the mental discomfort I just induced in half of my readers. You can quibble with my unsupported assumptions about gun use, but keep in mind that my point is about psychology and about big group averages. If Republicans think they need guns to protect against Democrats, that’s their reality. And if Democrats believe guns make the world more dangerous for themselves, that is their reality. And they can both be right. Your risk profile is different from mine.

So let’s stop acting as if there is something like â€œcommon sense†gun control to be had if we all act reasonably. That’s not an option in this case because we all have different risk profiles when it comes to guns. My gun probably makes me safer, but perhaps yours makes you less safe. You can’t reconcile those interests.

Our situation in the United States is that people with different risk profiles are voting for their self-interests as they see it. There is no compromise to be had in this situation unless you brainwash one side or the other to see their self-interest differently. And I don’t see anyone with persuasion skills trying to do that on either side.

Fear always beats reason. So as long as Democrats are mostly using guns to shoot innocent people (intentionally or accidentally) and Republicans are mostly using guns for sport or self-defense, no compromise can be had.

If we had a real government – the kind that works – we would acknowledge that gun violence is not one big problem with one big solution. It is millions of people with different risk profiles voting their self-interest as they see it.

So stop acting like one side is stupid. Both sides of the gun issue are scared, and both have legitimate reasons to be that way. Neither side is “right.â€

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Dont be a black man seems to be the key to not being shot by the police just now



The girlfriend has basically got that one police officer charged with murder, or at least should do. Her video is one of the very rare examples of eloquent, thoughtful "citizen journalism".
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1 minute ago, Savage Henry said:

 


The girlfriend has basically got that one police officer charged with murder, or at least should do. Her video is one of the very rare examples of eloquent, thoughtful "citizen journalism".

Mental stuff all round,at least in one of them they only shot the guy 4 times ffs

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