Leith Green Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, tamthebam said: It would be interesting if there were the usual "Car park monitored by CCTV, illegal parking will be fined" signs as if the car park is not actually monitored by CCTV and folk were receiving demands for money for parking there would that not be rather iffy? Thought they were still unenforceable up here anyway? Or has that Tory douchebag managed to get the law changed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: I wouldn't have thought so. You might have decided for yourself that the provision of CCTV was a service being provided and formed part of your contract but I don't see any way of you being able to evidence that the operator also believed that this was an integral part of the contract. Even if there was they wouldn't have a duty of care to keep your car and belongings safe. Their duty is to provide a place to leave your car unless specifically stated that you were also paying for the safety and security of your car and belongings. If the operator put signs up saying the place was monitored by CCTV and it wasn't, surely that's dishonest trading or anyway something they could be sued for? As @Stu said, he wouldn't have used the car park if he knew there weren't any cameras. Edited May 15, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: If the operator put signs up saying the place was monitored by CCTV and it wasn't, surely that's dishonest trading or anyway something they could be sued for? As @Stu said, he wouldn't have used the car park if he knew there weren't any cameras. All below is obviously IMO. Even if there was CCTV it wouldn't leave the car park operator liable for a third party committing theft on their premises any more than I could sue Tesco if someone punches me at the deli counter. The best case scenario would be the absence of CCTV voids the contract and Stu can ask for his money back for the parking. As I said you would need to demonstrate that the operator also thought that the provision of CCTV was part of the contract. If they had a sign on the door saying come and use our CCTV protected car park then there might be a case but, as I say, only to claim back for the parking. They might even claim signs around the site staying there is CCTV is an additional safety measure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Cctv in car parks tends to be shite quality anyway, most thieves will cover their face nowadays so unless its live monitored cctv then its pretty much not any use in detecting crimes which have just been committed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 13 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: All below is obviously IMO. Even if there was CCTV it wouldn't leave the car park operator liable for a third party committing theft on their premises any more than I could sue Tesco if someone punches me at the deli counter. The best case scenario would be the absence of CCTV voids the contract and Stu can ask for his money back for the parking. As I said you would need to demonstrate that the operator also thought that the provision of CCTV was part of the contract. If they had a sign on the door saying come and use our CCTV protected car park then there might be a case but, as I say, only to claim back for the parking. They might even claim signs around the site staying there is CCTV is an additional safety measure. Aye, that's what I reckoned. Bit like if an event is cancelled - you might get the ticket money back but you won't get other costs such as travel, hotels etc. 13 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Cctv in car parks tends to be shite quality anyway, most thieves will cover their face nowadays so unless its live monitored cctv then its pretty much not any use in detecting crimes which have just been committed. Yeah I agree - I wasn't expecting it to be much use, especially with the police not being interested - just pissed off they say there was CCTV when it turns out there isn't. Sent the insurance company photos of the car damage this morning so thought I might as well forward on the CCTV stuff as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 20 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Cctv in car parks tends to be shite quality anyway, most thieves will cover their face nowadays so unless its live monitored cctv then its pretty much not any use in detecting crimes which have just been committed. I was thinking that face masks must have put CCTV pretty out of business for after the event IDing, you could wear one on a sunny day on the High Street without looking like you'd just just robbed a bank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just been issued a parking charge notice from Total Parking Solutions from Kettering for a stay in the multistorey in Hamilton. I'm getting a distinct 'just ignore it' vibe from this thread however all the parking meters accessible at the time we're out of order. Is it for the bin or would it be worth appealing at the risk of them throwing it out on a technicality ( ie I can't prove that every meter in the whole building was out of order at that specific time) leading to them getting there tails up to pursue me further due to the fact I've got in touch ? It's the bin isn't it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just been issued a parking charge notice from Total Parking Solutions from Kettering for a stay in the multistorey in Hamilton. I'm getting a distinct 'just ignore it' vibe from this thread however all the parking meters accessible at the time we're out of order. Is it for the bin or would it be worth appealing at the risk of them throwing it out on a technicality ( ie I can't prove that every meter in the whole building was out of order at that specific time) leading to them getting there tails up to pursue me further due to the fact I've got in touch ? It's the bin isn't it ? Bin. Especially if you can't prove all the meters were fucked at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 It's the bin. Even if it was a council ticket the onus would be on you to have collected evidence at the time that there were no working machines and no alternative ways to pay eg Ringo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, JamesP_81 said: Just been issued a parking charge notice from Total Parking Solutions from Kettering for a stay in the multistorey in Hamilton. I'm getting a distinct 'just ignore it' vibe from this thread however all the parking meters accessible at the time we're out of order. Is it for the bin or would it be worth appealing at the risk of them throwing it out on a technicality ( ie I can't prove that every meter in the whole building was out of order at that specific time) leading to them getting there tails up to pursue me further due to the fact I've got in touch ? It's the bin isn't it ? From what I've read about them they're impossible to communicate with and won't back down even if it's clearly their fault. So file it and every subsequent letter in the bin. If you make contact with them they just escalate thinking they've got a live one, like a dog after a bone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Amusingly, depending on location / length of stay it's cheaper to get a parking ticket from the council in Edinburgh city centre than pay for parking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 16/12/2020 at 13:49, Ned Nederlander said: Ta, most sites saying the same but good to hear from someone who has actually ignored them. I've been getting letters from 2 different companies about 2 different infractions from a car I got rid of nearly 3 years ago. One is from a council re a car park in Omagh when no ticket was displayed. I think I've got that one sorted, went to the fella I sold it to, (he sold it to someone else who sold it to someone else), but according to the DVLA I was still the registered keeper, (never got any reminders about road tax or MoT, all the same), and (hopefully) it is sorted out, it must be 3 or 4 weeks since the last letter, they were arriving every week, and he (the chap I sold it to) said it was definitely sorted out this time. The other letters - which have been studiously ignored - are from an English company regarding an unpaid toll fine in the Free State. No contact has been made by me regarding this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 Guy that wrote that letter sounds like a right Andrew Hunt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 Nice of them to put a weblink on a bit of paper for you. Andrew Hunt can smoke my wang tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 The Legal Manager is writing to you to tell you that your case will be handed to the Legal Team... who is passing it to who!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 He's hardly Dog the Bounty Hunter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Just received this one, after a few previously ignored threats. Seems they’ve ramped up the threat level to DEFCON 3 STRONGLY ADVISED vibe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: He's hardly Dog the Bounty Hunter. He'd drop you like a bag of cold sick m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: He'd drop you like a bag of cold sick m8 He'd need to catch me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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