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We have lacked pace in our team for a good while now so pleasing to hear this boy Kabia has it and of course we know how fast Jai can be.

Watched Kabias 4 goals for Falkirk last season and he does look a decent prospect with some tidy finishes and their fans seem to rate him on Twitter. Comments above all sound very positive too. 

Hopefully we are speaking to Sibbald too and he might be encouraged to sign if his ex coach and 4 ex teams mates are playing with us. ( Lithgow, Kabia, Pignatiello and Schwake)  Would be turning into a mini Livi but f**k it. I know Ayr have spoke to him, probably has a few offers elsewhere too.

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11 minutes ago, madton said:

We have lacked pace in our team for a good while now so pleasing to hear this boy Kabia has it and of course we know how fast Jai can be.

Watched Kabias 4 goals for Falkirk last season and he does look a decent prospect with some tidy finishes and their fans seem to rate him on Twitter. Comments above all sound very positive too. 

Hopefully we are speaking to Sibbald too and he might be encouraged to sign if his ex coach and 4 ex teams mates are playing with us. ( Lithgow, Kabia, Pignatiello and Schwake)  Would be turning into a mini Livi but f**k it. I know Ayr have spoke to him, probably has a few offers elsewhere too.

Bullen said the other week we have spoken and made an offer, his agent was keen for him to sign and was down to Sibbald who was weighing a few options up.  We're hopeful he'll come to us as Bullen knows him and was part of the coaching set up that gave him his debut at Falkirk.

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Gillespie signed for us and was not fit, he slowly jogged in the same space without actually doing anything in the few appearances he made for us. 
 

I don’t remember a pass, tackle or mistake in his entire time at Ayr, it is more than possible he never touched the ball once, just stayed out the road and practiced pointing. I remember thinking 2 years ago that he was done as a footballer. 

 

Maybe he’s been for a stem cell injection for his hair and football ability over the summer. 
 

It’s hard to say if he is a bad signing or not because he played like a celebrity in a pro-celebrity game, the footballers kind of just played around him
 

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1 hour ago, madton said:

  Would be turning into a mini Livi but f**k it.

That's worked out well for a few clubs :D Kabia should be a good signing, hopefully he can make that step up as he's a good lad too

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If the rumours of our interest in Nicky Low, Ali Crawford or Craig Sibbald are in any way founded, it would be  A difficult decision to chose one of them over the others. If full time football sorted his injury troubles I would probably go for Nicky Low for his ability to change defence into attack. Crawford’s the most attacking of the three and the times I’ve watched Sibbald he seems to play quite deep. They would actually make a good midfield trio but that would be a dream scenario. for Morton in our current position.

 

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A great chance for Kabia to show what he can do at a higher level. He stood out for us (although that wasn’t particularly difficult) during his short spell. Full of trickery, pace and a good finisher given the chance.  He’s not the biggest or strongest, and did have a tendency to struggle to adapt if things weren’t going his way. I suspect with any remotely competent team and a bit of protection he could be a very good player. He can be an absolute WUM on the park as well and is good for teasing out a few cheap yellow cards. 

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10 hours ago, #Gary said:

Slightly worrying interview from Dougie on the YouTube channel tonight...

Aye bit annoying he is coming out with that stuff. Likewise he said in the tele the aim is to stay in the league, Morton has got to him already as that wasn't the chat last season. He spoke last season about kicking on and challenging at the top end this season.

We have effectively 12 first team players with 6 dev players( 5 plus Hynes) as backup.

We have lost 11( 10 first team plus Bysouth) players from season and brought in 6 so we absolutely need more in.. For me, we still need,

Backup GK,

backup CB who can cover LB, 

Attacking central midfielder

Winger

Striker.

If we can get a few of the dev boys out on loan and potentially shift Jacobs either loan or permanent then that should help. Our budget is apparently the same as last year so no reason to come out with the money is tight chat when we are still 5 players down on last year.

i doubt the players we have brought in are high earners too so when you consider we lost a few high earners in the Summer, I'm thinking Reilly,  Gozie and Hamilton, the kitty should be looking fine to add a few decent options in the final 3rd.

Hope Dougie is just playing the game but comments like that dont help when we have 12 1st team players signed.

 

 

 

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There was a comment at the MCT EGM that the budget was originally going to be lower than last season, although sponsorship helped improve that slightly. Given the number of players to have left and the middling quality of some of the signings, you'd surely hope there was still a bit of money left over and that the budget wasn't that bad.

Hopefully he was just being careful with his words and not wanting to promise too much. Maybe he was just playing fans to try encourage more season ticket purchases, or playing the board to try get a better budget, but it didn't seem like the right context for that.

Surprised the supposedly imminent arrival of Kabia hasn't materialised yet but hope it does, he seems like he'd be a decent shout for a starter.

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I think what Imrie is saying is that there are players he would like to bring in, but financially they are out of reach at the moment. Perhaps we'll need to wait and see if such players aren't picked up elsewhere or if anything else comes up further into the window. I think that's the "waiting game" that he's referring to. At the moment the deals aren't there, he's happy that we're starting to build something, and we'll need to wait and see what the position looks like later. 

I don't think it's a case of not being able to bring anyone else in, but that he can't get the deals done to improve the squad right now.

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53 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

I think what Imrie is saying is that there are players he would like to bring in, but financially they are out of reach at the moment. Perhaps we'll need to wait and see if such players aren't picked up elsewhere or if anything else comes up further into the window. I think that's the "waiting game" that he's referring to. At the moment the deals aren't there, he's happy that we're starting to build something, and we'll need to wait and see what the position looks like later. 

I don't think it's a case of not being able to bring anyone else in, but that he can't get the deals done to improve the squad right now.

Agree. He might have been a bit too crude with the 'manage expectations' stuff, but I'm seeing a guy who's being very, very careful with his budget, knows what he can and can't afford, and is willing to hold his nerve in order to get the right players for the right money.

I think we'll sign four more (plus a young back-up GK) between now and the end of August; if three out of the four are clear first-picks, we'll be pretty competitive in what looks like being a brutally competitive league. Either a defender, a midfielder, and two up front; or a defender and three up front (adjust if there are any further outgoings). Would be good to see maybe two of them in place before the league cup kicks off, but better to hold off if waiting means better quality.

Anybody tempted to jump on Imrie before June is out should just repeat these words to themselves: Caolan McAleer; Jordan Allan; Kudus Oyenuga; Ryan Scully; Tom Allan [insert your own particular favourite]. We've been murder since the last season and a bit under Duffy (Nicky Cadden making Hopkin look better than he was for a bit or Grangemouth in the Sun notwithstanding) and sunk to miserable depths not much more than six months ago; the wee spell before Imrie got his touchline ban showed what he's capable of with a very limited squad and I'm confident he'll move us on even if the squad ends up being only a bit better than last season.

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He isn’t really wrong on the “aim to stay in the division” chat, as depressing as it is to admit. 2nd snallest budget in the league - and our signings so far reflect that. Anything above 7th would be punching.

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Looking at who we have at the club, the way he set us up previously, and his signings I'm guessing he's going with a 4-3-3 and the middle three will be two deep lying players and one pushing forward from an attacking position. We have players in now who can play those midfield roles, well, have played those midfield roles and gives us a few options on how to set it up which is pretty decent for a small squad but there's a frightening lack of quality in there. How old is Alan Jenkins now?

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1 hour ago, TheGoon said:

He isn’t really wrong on the “aim to stay in the division” chat, as depressing as it is to admit. 2nd snallest budget in the league - and our signings so far reflect that. Anything above 7th would be punching.

Our budget doesn't look smaller than Hamilton who have basically signed no c**t so far, and if it's lower in meaningful competitive terms than Arbroath then that's a failure of our full-time model that we should have addressed before chucking yet more two year deals around. 

I don't think it would take too much quality to turn our usual 7th placed plodders into a much more competitive team at the top end next season, as there isn't the clear gulf that was obvious last season between top and bottom half clubs. 

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We are still only in June. We won't, like most teams,  complete our squad until near the end of the transfer window.

We need a good core of squad players but we also need to see who is available in the weeks ahead.

Also we are not going to have a big squad whilst we have no games for supporters to pay into for revenue for wages. 

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Don’t forget this is Dougie’s first experience of signing and releasing players, having previously only coached and inherited Gus’s squad at Cappielow. He’s doing okay so far and might be finding it a bit more difficult than he expected, so is trying to be pragmatic and patience till he sees what’s coming.

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4 hours ago, Colkitto said:

Also we are not going to have a big squad whilst we have no games for supporters to pay into for revenue for wages. 

While I don't think we need bodies in the door for the sake of it (before the final week of July), that's the whole point of season ticket sales. 

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10 minutes ago, virginton said:

While I don't think we need bodies in the door for the sake of it (before the final week of July), that's the whole point of season ticket sales. 

Exactly

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5 hours ago, virginton said:

Our budget doesn't look smaller than Hamilton who have basically signed no c**t so far, and if it's lower in meaningful competitive terms than Arbroath then that's a failure of our full-time model that we should have addressed before chucking yet more two year deals around. 

I don't think it would take too much quality to turn our usual 7th placed plodders into a much more competitive team at the top end next season, as there isn't the clear gulf that was obvious last season between top and bottom half clubs. 

I think our budget will be similar to Morton, Ayr, Hamilton and Cove.


Not sure why they wouldn’t be? Would budgets just not be determined by the amount of people coming through the gates and prize money? We have been middle of the road in people coming through the gates and pretty bog standard for this league and had 2nd, 5th and 7th places finish last 3 seasons 

 

Maybe slightly lower than the FT clubs because we are part time and the players only have to do 3 days work but then they obviously can have another good wage on top of it 

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