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1 hour ago, accies1874 said:

I wanted to see what he'd do as Accies manager. He seemed to be quite switched on tactically (played in pretty much every position) and did extremely well with a talented group of youngsters, loads of whom are now first-team players.

The one thing I was concerned with was how spiky a character he is but Morton fans seem to be happy with that. He's either gonna be a tough authority figure or fall out with everyone.

Fair comment.

 

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3 hours ago, accies1874 said:

I wanted to see what he'd do as Accies manager. He seemed to be quite switched on tactically (played in pretty much every position) and did extremely well with a talented group of youngsters, loads of whom are now first-team players.

The one thing I was concerned with was how spiky a character he is but Morton fans seem to be happy with that. He's either gonna be a tough authority figure or fall out with everyone.

That is what some players need their arses kicked and the duds hopefully kicked out in January.

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All for this... and fully expect that it'll be weeks not months before we know if it's going to work. Either he gets a response out of the players immediately and shuffles the squad in January... or he doesn't, in which case this will be some first job for him.

Sunday's game just got even bigger...

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29 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

All for this... and fully expect that it'll be weeks not months before we know if it's going to work. Either he gets a response out of the players immediately and shuffles the squad in January... or he doesn't, in which case this will be some first job for him.

If I were a new manager I'd much rather face the task of a total rebuild in a lower tier rather than circling the drain yet again at this level.  That was a distinct advantage that Duffy had taking over in 2014, while his acolytes were busy whinging about us not keeping a solid squad of, err, Jamie McCormack and David Robertson on board for him to work with. 

Imrie has got relatively little to lose by taking over at this point in the campaign. The disconnect between the first team will not be fully removed though until the bad stench in the backroom staff as well as multiple players are emptied though. Today's other news makes me pessimistic about Imrie getting the chance to do all of that next month, but he can still hopefully make a start. 

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Well not my pick. 

No record in management, worked bring boys on, yes had attitude but not a team player.

On the positive, and by God we need it, didn't  fancy the list of failures that generally circulate the broken wagon.

Hope he doesn't take advice from the supporters this and other forums and brings his own skills to the job.

Sure Muirhead should be shown the door, attitude has been shite and to impose your command you need a sacrifice, but let's see what impact he has getting others to convert their potential into points.

This is a big job for him, let's not kid ourselves, getting to 7th in May would be real achievement.

The future is bright let's hope its blue and white.

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7 minutes ago, Paisley Ton said:

Well not my pick. 

No record in management, worked bring boys on, yes had attitude but not a team player.

On the positive, and by God we need it, didn't  fancy the list of failures that generally circulate the broken wagon.

Hope he doesn't take advice from the supporters this and other forums and brings his own skills to the job.

Sure Muirhead should be shown the door, attitude has been shite and to impose your command you need a sacrifice, but let's see what impact he has getting others to convert their potential into points.

This is a big job for him, let's not kid ourselves, getting to 7th in May would be real achievement.

The future is bright let's hope its blue and white.

The guy that won the League & Scottish Cup last season with St Johnstone had “no record in management” 

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4 hours ago, virginton said:

If I were a new manager I'd much rather face the task of a total rebuild in a lower tier rather than circling the drain yet again at this level.  That was a distinct advantage that Duffy had taking over in 2014, while his acolytes were busy whinging about us not keeping a solid squad of, err, Jamie McCormack and David Robertson on board for him to work with. 

Imrie has got relatively little to lose by taking over at this point in the campaign. The disconnect between the first team will not be fully removed though until the bad stench in the backroom staff as well as multiple players are emptied though. Today's other news makes me pessimistic about Imrie getting the chance to do all of that next month, but he can still hopefully make a start. 

From his first interview, tho, that’s clearly not what he’s thinking.

If we’d appointed him in the summer after going down, I’d take your point; but we’ve appointed him now and he’ll inevitably be judged on whether he can keep us up (that’s not to say he wouldn’t get a crack at taking us back up btw).

I hope he starts gutting the place in January, keeps us up, and finishes the job in the summer.

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10 hours ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

From his first interview, tho, that’s clearly not what he’s thinking.

If we’d appointed him in the summer after going down, I’d take your point; but we’ve appointed him now and he’ll inevitably be judged on whether he can keep us up (that’s not to say he wouldn’t get a crack at taking us back up btw).

I hope he starts gutting the place in January, keeps us up, and finishes the job in the summer.

He's not going to state in his first interview 'this team is a binfire and we're going to relegate it and start again'. What a manager says in public and what he thinks are two very different things. 

He will be partly judged on performances and results this season but Imrie has a reserve of goodwill to get through that regardless and empty all the duds. 

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20 minutes ago, virginton said:

He's not going to state in his first interview 'this team is a binfire and we're going to relegate it and start again'. What a manager says in public and what he thinks are two very different things. 

He will be partly judged on performances and results this season but Imrie has a reserve of goodwill to get through that regardless and empty all the duds. 

I wonder which of these two scenarios he’d prefer:

’You’ll get a new-manager bounce, bring in a couple of your own players in January, and pull clear of relegation trouble’.

Or:

’You’ll be bogged down all season in a relegation struggle and eventually go down’.

He may very well survive the latter, but it’s not what he - or any serious manager - would choose.

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While you can read too much into interviews, that's really encouraging and he's saying all the right things. He's talking up the potential of the club both in the short and long term rather than indulging in 'plucky little Morton' stuff, and talking about the minimum standards he expects. While a manager talking about desire, commitment and getting fans onside can sometimes come over a bit John Hughes, in the context of what's going on with this squad that's exactly what we need to hear from the manager.

It'll all be irrelevant if things don't change on the park, but it sounds like he's determined to bring a real professionalism to the club off the park.

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4 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

While you can read too much into interviews, that's really encouraging and he's saying all the right things. He's talking up the potential of the club both in the short and long term rather than indulging in 'plucky little Morton' stuff, and talking about the minimum standards he expects. While a manager talking about desire, commitment and getting fans onside can sometimes come over a bit John Hughes, in the context of what's going on with this squad that's exactly what we need to hear from the manager.

It'll all be irrelevant if things don't change on the park, but it sounds like he's determined to bring a real professionalism to the club off the park.

Words are cheap. A headless chicken giving 110% is still a headless chicken. We need to play smarter and cut out errors. That requires improved technique and better concentration. Those not up for that need to be binned.

Tbh I would need some time to have confidence in someone who thinks a body covered in ink blobs is a positive attribute.

 

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Just reading some really quite bizarre tweets from the MCT account about merch. Someone has asked where they can buy the hat that Imrie is wearing at training, MCT don't know where it's come from, you can't buy it, and they will have a look at the merchandise if it's been brought up enough in the fan surveys...

 

The constant references to "the club" are fucking infuriating as well. Regardless of the ins and outs and technicalities, you ARE the club.

 

I lose more faith by the day in this project.

 

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6 hours ago, #Gary said:

Just reading some really quite bizarre tweets from the MCT account about merch. Someone has asked where they can buy the hat that Imrie is wearing at training, MCT don't know where it's come from, you can't buy it, and they will have a look at the merchandise if it's been brought up enough in the fan surveys...

 

The constant references to "the club" are fucking infuriating as well. Regardless of the ins and outs and technicalities, you ARE the club.

 

I lose more faith by the day in this project.

 

I widnae mind it if whoever is running the socials for MCT was clear on the distinction. Like "this is just for MCT stuff. It's entirely separate from the club." Y'know just for questions about membership and the like. But I don't see them tweeting out stuff like "oh this isnae the club" when folk are congratulating them on hiring Imrie or any positive messages. 

Everything posted under the MCT account is directly related to MCT but they retweet a lot by the club so the confusion is understandable. 

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5 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

I widnae mind it if whoever is running the socials for MCT was clear on the distinction. Like "this is just for MCT stuff. It's entirely separate from the club." Y'know just for questions about membership and the like. But I don't see them tweeting out stuff like "oh this isnae the club" when folk are congratulating them on hiring Imrie or any positive messages. 

Everything posted under the MCT account is directly related to MCT but they retweet a lot by the club so the confusion is understandable. 

Aye, they reply to loads of stuff as if they are the club but then when there's scrutiny they quickly deflect back to 'we're not thr club'.

What exactly IS the role of MCT now...?

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44 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Aye, they reply to loads of stuff as if they are the club but then when there's scrutiny they quickly deflect back to 'we're not thr club'.

What exactly IS the role of MCT now...?

To provide a veneer of 'community ownership' to outsiders/grant providers, while a wee committee of lawyers and accountants get a blazer and bragging rights at their golf club/lodge. 

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Again it's just talk and will mean nothing if it doesn't have any impact on performances and results, but a further Tele interview with Imrie today has the following comment:

"Draws are of no use to us at this point of the season, we need to be getting ourselves consecutive three points as quickly as possible and propelling ourselves as far up the table as we can."

I've little doubt that will be read as a blatantly obvious statement by fans of every other club, but after years of having absolutely tragic losers in charge it's such a refreshing attitude to hear. We're just a few weeks on from Gus MacPherson talking up how well we were doing due to only having lost one in six when we were ten games without a win, to go from that to a manager saying draws aren't good enough is an encouraging mentality shift that's a further sign the plucky little Morton outlook is being launched into the sun.

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