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As for Muirhead, yes, I wanted him punted last summer, I wanted him punted in January. If you asked me to predict his career trajectory from here it would be six months at Clyde next season followed by a loan spell at East Kilbride, then Darvel and diminishing returns from then on.

And yet, our alternatives are Kalvin Orsi, who has given no indication of being good enough for League One in his career, Gary Oliver who isn't a centre forward, and Kazaiah Sterling who had one good performance and has looked utterly lost the rest of the time. Muirhead has been consistently shite in the various positions he's been launched into, but he played more games at left back than at centre forward under Hopkin despite that tit saying he signed him to be a centre forward. He's scored twice in two games playing there, bringing him one goal behind Orsi's total for the season and ahead of Oliver. It's a desperate move, but we're absolutely desperate; better to take a shot on someone who's likely not good enough but might be up to it than persist with someone who definitely isn't like Orsi.

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4 hours ago, virginton said:

If one of the three at the back is Sean McGinty then teams will waltz through it regardless. It is absolutely pointless to play that formation while that donkey is always ready and waiting to ship a couple of goals to the opposition and shell the ball out of play under no pressure. 

Let’s not get too far into this ‘we’re gonnae get relegated cos Sean McGinty’ line... he’s one of a number of sub-standard players in a sub-standard squad, but wouldn’t be my top choice for a scapegoat (nor would he be in my top half-dozen choices for captain, right enough).

We’ve looked at our most secure with a back three, McGinty included. Other duff and/or limited centre-backs are available.

And you know that the defence hasn’t been anywhere near being this team’s biggest problem.

22 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

ICT did waltz through us, but that was when we were playing a 4-3-3 that was more akin to a 4-1-5, having flung Orsi and Sterling on when it could have been an extra body in midfield. They could easily pick us off because the second they crossed the halfway line they met no opposition until they reached the box as we longer had a midfield, and even at that one of the goals was still sold by McGinty contriving to be eight million lightyears away from Todorov when he could easily have picked him up and prevented that goal - much like the second in the first half and both goals ICT scored in the previous game at Cappielow - by engaging his walnut brain and bothering his arse to get within a mile of the one player he was supposed to be marking.

Despite the complete absence of a midfield we still conceded the same number with a back four containing the worst centre back in the division while we were flinging everything at chasing the game as we did with a back three and a very defensive midfield set up to grind out a 0-0. That second half is not a valid reason to write off ditching the back three.

A back four with McLean & Ledger at centre back (Fjortoft as the cover if either of them are unavailable) and McGinn & Jacobs in front of them provides a far more solid defensive set up than a back three, or for that matter a back ten, with McGinty in it.

Again, I totally agree that protecting the back line and having players in midfield that will give us a chance of keeping the ball is the priority.

But I have no confidence whatsoever that McLean and Ledger playing as a two won’t get murdered, no matter how much protection there is in front of them.

The hybrid four with Ledger at right-back might work, but I’m expecting McPherson to stick to his guns, for better or worse.

3 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

As for Muirhead, yes, I wanted him punted last summer, I wanted him punted in January. If you asked me to predict his career trajectory from here it would be six months at Clyde next season followed by a loan spell at East Kilbride, then Darvel and diminishing returns from then on.

And yet, our alternatives are Kalvin Orsi, who has given no indication of being good enough for League One in his career, Gary Oliver who isn't a centre forward, and Kazaiah Sterling who had one good performance and has looked utterly lost the rest of the time. Muirhead has been consistently shite in the various positions he's been launched into, but he played more games at left back than at centre forward under Hopkin despite that tit saying he signed him to be a centre forward. He's scored twice in two games playing there, bringing him one goal behind Orsi's total for the season and ahead of Oliver. It's a desperate move, but we're absolutely desperate; better to take a shot on someone who's likely not good enough but might be up to it than persist with someone who definitely isn't like Orsi.

Problem is we’re taking a shot on a player who really looks as though he couldn’t give a f**k (on top of his all-round uselessness). Bizarre but possibly revealing that McPherson hooked him immediately after he scored on Tuesday.

He just looks as though he’s trying to remember what he should do for ten minutes, then loses interest.

I’m skeptical about Oliver, but I’d play him; and I think Orsi is nothing but a nuisance player... but I’d give him the nod off the bench before Muirhead in the Alloa and Arbroath games when it might just descend into a desperate scrap.

’Desperate’ is the word, I’m afraid.

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MCT update looks like the best outcome we could hope for.

Fair play to the guys who’ve negotiated it... and let’s hope it injects a bit of positivity over the coming week.

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Yeah, without digging into any details, it looks on the face of it to be a job very well done by MCT. 

 

Can't wait til Crawford starts trying to charge a tenner a person for use of the car park though. The surrounding areas are hard enough to get parked in at the best of times 😂

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Again, that comment is based on just glancing through the basics of the deal. With Morton having use of the car park, I'm not actually sure if that means Morton keep the income generated by the car park or if that's all going to chief c**t. I'd guess the latter but happy to be wrong on that.

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Golden Casket leaving with anything after the decades of damage they've done rankles, but a debt free club with ownership of the stadium is considerably better than we had before.

I still think it might be too late to avert catastrophe and if we go down this season we won't be back at this level for years, if ever. Turning into Clyde is more likely than turning into Airdrie and it's easy to see turmoil on and off the park feeding off each other and sinking MCT's credibility before they properly get going.

If they're planning to overhaul every aspect of the club with the ultimate aim of purging the social club mentality and becoming a properly professional outfit then it's going to take years to achieve and longer to rehabilitate the club's reputation, which has been a laughing stock for the entirety of Golden Casket's reign and has plumbed new depths this season. We could do with five minutes of stability on the park to facilitate that - if they're trying to carry out a restructure of the club against drastically reduced income from being in League One while showing no sign of a promotion challenge and possibly going part-time, they're obviously more limited in what can be done. Relegation from the Championship is always going to be a risk for a club floating around the bottom end of full time budgets, but there's really no worse summer it could happen.

While we have more reasons to be pessimistic than optimistic about the future, the previous deal was nothing short of a death sentence regardless of what division we were in. There's at least a route to survival from here.

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We're not down yet.  Win on Friday and we definitely stay up.  Even a draw might mean we stay up.  Even if we end up in the play offs, we are capable of winning them.  The persistent problem with Morton this season has been team selection - we all pretty much know the best eleven players to make up our starting line-up, but the various managers we have had persist with leaving at least 2 of our best options on the bench or even out the squad.  Get Lyon and Colville on in midfield, Jacobs to be the ball winner and probably McGinn to make up the midfield 4, Nesbitt and Oliver up front. Ledger, Fjortoft , Mclean and Strapp as the back 4.  No McGinty.  Muirhead a desperation option if they want a bit more muscle up front.  The front 2 are not really that good, but probably the best we have, with an option of using McGuffie as a sub as at least he can shoot and get the ball on target.  Our squad is unbalanced but at least we can make the best of what we have.

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2 minutes ago, Tri-TON said:

My worry is that Arbroath actually seem capable of scoring goals, whereas we don't.

They've as many in their last 3 as we have in our last 11.

Still, the board did the right thing deciding not to sign anyone in January while Hamilton went to Arbroath and Cameron went to Alloa, then panicking right at the end of the month when all we could get was Sterling.

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7 minutes ago, Tri-TON said:

My worry is that Arbroath actually seem capable of scoring goals, whereas we don't.

Anyone with a fucking Omar avatar gets what they deserve to be honest.

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On 28/04/2021 at 13:41, Jamie_M said:

Anyone with a fucking Omar avatar gets what they deserve to be honest.

He's been decent for us and probably should've played more. That said, I think it's clear League 1 is his level, he makes some truly mental decisions with the ball. James Wallace looks a player though and it's scandalous that Duffy has used him so sparingly since he came to us. His touch is excellent and he always looks to drive the team forward, can probably do a bit too much at times and lose the ball but I don't blame him in our squad of Lowland League jobbers. He's had two MOTM awards, one on Tuesday there which was fully deserved and the other he won after coming on in the 80th minute, which I suppose shows how poor our current squad is. Would love to see him come back to us and work under a gaffer that doesn't play a horrendous style of football. 

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25 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

He's been decent for us and probably should've played more. That said, I think it's clear League 1 is his level, he makes some truly mental decisions with the ball. James Wallace looks a player though and it's scandalous that Duffy has used him so sparingly since he came to us. His touch is excellent and he always looks to drive the team forward, can probably do a bit too much at times and lose the ball but I don't blame him in our squad of Lowland League jobbers. He's had two MOTM awards, one on Tuesday there which was fully deserved and the other he won after coming on in the 80th minute, which I suppose shows how poor our current squad is. Would love to see him come back to us and work under a gaffer that doesn't play a horrendous style of football. 

Nothing against Omar personally. He just looked woefully out of his depth any time he got game time for us.

Glad Wallace is doing OK. Weird he never got a sniff when our forward options despite having literally hundreds of them, are woeful at best. 

Glad you took both then off our hands for the rest of the season, just wishing you had taken Orsi also.

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9 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Nothing against Omar personally. He just looked woefully out of his depth any time he got game time for us.

Glad Wallace is doing OK. Weird he never got a sniff when our forward options despite having literally hundreds of them, are woeful at best. 

Glad you took both then off our hands for the rest of the season, just wishing you had taken Orsi also.

Wallace is probably not a striker tbh, I thought he was best played behind the striker but he played out wide on Tuesday and was good there too. 

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9 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Wallace is probably not a striker tbh

Neither are any of the others from the job lot Hopkin collected 

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How has Markus Fjortoft been with you guys? Always been impressed when he's played against us, but seems to be a bit of a bit part player in a defence that contains Sean McGinty & Brian McLean?

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5 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

How has Markus Fjortoft been with you guys? Always been impressed when he's played against us, but seems to be a bit of a bit part player in a defence that contains Sean McGinty & Brian McLean?

Should have played every game. But then, so should several others. Our plethora of 'managers' all felt differently for reasons only known to them.

Impressed with him.

Would start him up front tonight.

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