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1 hour ago, Dee Man said:

How would that work? Rangers send you a player who you realise after 2 games is soft as shite but you have to continue playing him? How would that even get written into an agreement?

I don't know, but can you honestly say you have never heard talk of that sort of thing in the past? Loan players or players that are funded externally expected to play?

Whether it's written into agreements or just verbally agreed, it is probably way more common than you think.

Some of the reports saying they had the choice to send him to Linfield, Ayr or us and they chose us as they think that's the best option for his development to come back having had game time.

https://www.rangersnews.uk/transfer-news/rangers-attacker-josh-mcpake-set-to-join-greenock-morton-on-loan-report/amp/

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27 minutes ago, callum-ayr said:

Would be along the lines of if he didn’t play then Morton would have to pay his wages. Happened with us with Jack Ruddy when on loan from wolves. McCall signed him and wolves were paying his wages as long as he was starting. He was brutal and almost cost us the league, eventually McCall dropped him for the last 3/4 games of the season.  IIRC he wasn’t even in the squad for the last game of the season. 

Have never heard of that type of agreement before but I suppose it makes sense from the parent club's point of view. 

22 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

 

I don't know, but can you honestly say you have never heard talk of that sort of thing in the past? Loan players or players that are funded externally expected to play?

Whether it's written into agreements or just verbally agreed, it is probably way more common than you think.

Some of the reports saying they had the choice to send him to Linfield, Ayr or us and they chose us as they think that's the best option for his development to come back having had game time.

https://www.rangersnews.uk/transfer-news/rangers-attacker-josh-mcpake-set-to-join-greenock-morton-on-loan-report/amp/

I can honestly say I've never heard of it. I can understand the parent club wanting their player to get as many minutes on the pitch as possible but "guaranteed game time" is unworkable. 

I really hope that we didn't have the sort of agreement that callum-ayr alluded to or else we'd have found ourselves substantially out of pocket once we discovered Josh McPake was a lightweight shitebag. I had high hopes for him after 1 or 2 games but that didn't last long. 

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7 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

Have never heard of that type of agreement before but I suppose it makes sense from the parent club's point of view. 

I can honestly say I've never heard of it. I can understand the parent club wanting their player to get as many minutes on the pitch as possible but "guaranteed game time" is unworkable. 

I really hope that we didn't have the sort of agreement that callum-ayr alluded to or else we'd have found ourselves substantially out of pocket once we discovered Josh McPake was a lightweight shitebag. I had high hopes for him after 1 or 2 games but that didn't last long. 

Yeah, not saying I endorse that sort of agreement, but not hard to imagine that sort or stuff goes on.

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I, for one, look forward to us romping the league in a Pep Guardiola-esque 3-7-0 formation with one centreback and various midfielders and wingers running about bamboozling the opposition with a beautiful combination of movement and silky one touch tiki-taka mixed in with the odd goal from Lewis Strapp long throws

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36 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

McPake is rank.

Thank you.

Morrissey too. 

You're welcome. 

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46 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

I, for one, look forward to us romping the league in a Pep Guardiola-esque 3-7-0 formation with one centreback and various midfielders and wingers running about bamboozling the opposition with a beautiful combination of movement and silky one touch tiki-taka mixed in with the odd goal from Lewis Strapp long throws

... or sand-dancing our way to a comfortable 8th...

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2 hours ago, Dee Man said:

Have never heard of that type of agreement before but I suppose it makes sense from the parent club's point of view. 

I can honestly say I've never heard of it. I can understand the parent club wanting their player to get as many minutes on the pitch as possible but "guaranteed game time" is unworkable. 

I really hope that we didn't have the sort of agreement that callum-ayr alluded to or else we'd have found ourselves substantially out of pocket once we discovered Josh McPake was a lightweight shitebag. I had high hopes for him after 1 or 2 games but that didn't last long. 

The different levels of contribution to wage depending on whether the player is starting or not thing is not that unusual. 

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I pointed out on twitter that the brand new super duper website doesn't even show you the kit when you click on the Shop section.

 

They've now added a button saying "Morton kit" hyperlinked to Smith's website to the BOTTOM of the page... with no pictures, nothing. 

I dunno about anyone else or any other club but it's the first thing I'd expect to see when I go the the club shop, not an afterthought just plonked on the bottom after a fan has pointed out it wasn't there at all. Instead we have a picture of some lottery balls, the wall, and a fucking crowdie and then just 3 external links.

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52 minutes ago, #Gary said:

I pointed out on twitter that the brand new super duper website doesn't even show you the kit when you click on the Shop section.

 

They've now added a button saying "Morton kit" hyperlinked to Smith's website to the BOTTOM of the page... with no pictures, nothing. 

I dunno about anyone else or any other club but it's the first thing I'd expect to see when I go the the club shop, not an afterthought just plonked on the bottom after a fan has pointed out it wasn't there at all. Instead we have a picture of some lottery balls, the wall, and a fucking crowdie and then just 3 external links.

Partly because they have 2 shop pages.

https://www.gmfc.net/shop/ which is linked to from the main shop button and just shows crowdies, lottery and the wall.

The other https://www.gmfc.net/shop-gmfc/ wasn't linked to from anywhere on the site.

The new button you speak of doesn't link direct to Smiths, it goes to the 2nd shop page (might have changed since you checked).

Still a bag of shite that needs totally redone.

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That's McPake on loan confirmed.

Signing another attacking player with the squad we already have is absolute insanity. Are we playing 2-3-5 this season?

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If Clements is paying any more than his train fare, that is mental... Let's hope he's actually good...

Most of us were shocked by the retentions a few weeks ago, but as time has passed McLean and McGinty look more and more understandable... two legs and a head each. Why we've spent money on so many players in front of them, tho, just looks more insane each day closer to the season starting.

Defender today, surely?

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Either Egert or Fosu-Mensah have to be coming in today as well, this is just getting weird.

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Obviously we don't know what system Hopkin is planning on, but if we even very charitably say he's managed to figure out a system which allows us to get an attacking midfielder, two wingers and two centre forwards in at once without being stupidly imbalanced then we'd have the following options for those five places in the team:

Nesbitt, McGuffie, McPake, Omar, Lyon, Colville, Wallace, Oliver, Salkeld, Muirhead, Orsi, MacIver

Compared with those 12 (twelve) attacking options and another four central midfielders, we have the following defenders:

Strapp, McGinty, McLean

If this season does go tits up at any point there is absolutely no way the budget can be used as an excuse. If we end up short in defence it's because Hopkin has chosen to stockpile attackers rather than not having the resources to strengthen the defence.

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We now have 16 midfielders/forwards fighting out for effectively 6 positions. There is going to be a lot of unhappy players on match day.

Meanwhile we have 3 defenders, 1 of which is 35 and past his best.

Absolute madness recruitment from Hopkin when just  a week or two ago he said how tight the budget was and asking fans for more money.

Quite why he gave so many of our deadwood new deals and continues to recruit wingers and attack minded players is anyone's guess.

We have 4 defensive midfielders, we have 5 wingers, has Hopkin lost it? How is he going to make this work?

 

 

 

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No Idea who Michael Ledger is, but no doubt QoS fans will be along soon to tell us he's shite...

Beyond that, there must be contract cancellations/moves to come; there's no way he can sustain a squad that shape... and absolutely no way he can justify some of the cost, this season of all seasons. The Wallace signing is just taking the pish.

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5 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

No Idea who Michael Ledger is, but no doubt QoS fans will be along soon to tell us he's shite...

Beyond that, there must be contract cancellations/moves to come; there's no way he can sustain a squad that shape... and absolutely no way he can justify some of the cost, this season of all seasons. The Wallace signing is just taking the pish.

I’m not saying he is shite - he just didn’t make us any less shite!

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