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1 hour ago, madton said:

Dykes joins Stenny on loan for the season.

No game time under Hoppy at all. Obviously didn't rate him.

Why JJ jumped in to sign him up again last season is a total mystery. He signed him up again for this season and even he didn't play him

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Cameron Blues

 

One of the worst players I’ve seen for Brechin, and we’ve seen some shite over the last couple of years.

 

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Blues is okay, not the best. Not convinced he's anything other than a player for a mid table League 1 club though. Same goes for Van Schaik, below average player - happy we've got them off the wage budget tbh as they're nowhere near good enough

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Just now, IainMorton said:

Good enough for the Championship, though?

I wouldn't say so. Watched both play reserve football for about a year in a 352 system which was Hoppy's favoured formation with us. HVS is pretty tall and strong but can be a bit timid at the back, will do okay if he's got two cracking defenders next to him (was partnered by Hakeem Odoffin and Jack McMillan two comfortably better players). He's still young so could turn a corner to be fair but think he came off the bench for us once for us to waste time to draw v Celtic and that was it.

Honestly Blues is a CM that you never see, the game can pass him by so easily and he doesn't get stuck in. With our midfield core of 3 it was always hard to break in but in the reserves you could never pin down what kind of player he is, he doesn't do a lot of running (aka Pittman), he doesn't slow the play down and find a pass/beat a man (aka Byrne) and he doesn't get stuck in and break up the play (aka Jacobs). Maybe he'd do better in a different position but I genuinely don't see much in him at all, and I'm sure Brechin/Berwick fans will agree.

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Honestly Blues is a CM that you never see, the game can pass him by so easily and he doesn't get stuck in. With our midfield core of 3 it was always hard to break in but in the reserves you could never pin down what kind of player he is, he doesn't do a lot of running (aka Pittman), he doesn't slow the play down and find a pass/beat a man (aka Byrne) and he doesn't get stuck in and break up the play (aka Jacobs). Maybe he'd do better in a different position but I genuinely don't see much in him at all, and I'm sure Brechin/Berwick fans will agree.


I think that’s spot on and pretty much how I’d describe him as well. He’s a central midfielder but with nothing about him at all. Was really surprised when Livi took him last season as he never really looked like he was going to be good enough. I’d imagine he’s just a cheap bench warmer for you guys and doubt he’d see much game time. Paul Hartley in all his wisdom did try him out at right-back against Dundee Utd in what ended up being his last game for us and Billy King just completely tore him to shreds. He made King look like a world beater that night.

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I was hoping for an upgrade on Dylan Dykes levels of nothingness.  I hope Hoppy saw something in them that Brechin/Livi fans have missed.

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Blues is a bit of a odd signing.  We have Jacobs, Lyon, Millar and McCalister so we'll covered in the DM/CM positions and we have Nesbitt, Cadden, Salkeld  and even Orsi who can player in the more attacking midfield roles so the last position we need is another midfielder. 

I'd understand it if we were signing someone who was much better than what we have and was coming in to start, but he doesn't strike me as that at all, so what's the point? Hope we haven't wasted a wage on him when we still need a couple of defenders, arguably another striker and perhaps a keeper depending on how long Pearson is out for. 

The defender will be raw but Livvy  saw his potential  to bring him in last Oct so hopefully there is a player there. Presumably Hopkin spoke to Martindale so just need to trust him.  He was always going to struggle for game time with the defenders  Livvy had last season. Grant and McLean are experienced defenders which should help him settle. Not inspiring but as a Livvy fan said, they felt the same signing Lithgow and Hopkin turned his career around. 

 

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Truth be told, if I was a Morton fan I wouldn't be inspired with those two signings. However as a Livi fan, having experienced first hand the magic Hoppy can work I'd say to let him build his own team. Have a bit of faith in him and he'll get you up this season. Won't always be pretty football but what's prettier than 3 points at the end of the day? 

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Morton Club Together have confirmed their terms and conditions of membership. They’ve got a written agreement from Golden Casket that when the first payment is made GC will write off £500K of debt, with further debt cancellations coming for each £100K passed to the club by MCT.

That means that if the £400K target is met, the full debt to Golden Casket will be written off over two years. That’s a huge commitment that I didn’t see coming and means I’m more than willing to overlook the shareholding only being 15% when £400K should get more than that. That’s worth it in return for not having that debt hanging over the club, and the 15% shareholding transfers to MCT immediately as well.

There are still questions around what happens if they fail to raise that amount of money and what happens when the initial two years are over, but based on the debt cancellation commitment I’m definitely pledging.

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1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said:

Morton Club Together have confirmed their terms and conditions of membership. They’ve got a written agreement from Golden Casket that when the first payment is made GC will write off £500K of debt, with further debt cancellations coming for each £100K passed to the club by MCT.

That means that if the £400K target is met, the full debt to Golden Casket will be written off over two years. That’s a huge commitment that I didn’t see coming and means I’m more than willing to overlook the shareholding only being 15% when £400K should get more than that. That’s worth it in return for not having that debt hanging over the club, and the 15% shareholding transfers to MCT immediately as well.

There are still questions around what happens if they fail to raise that amount of money and what happens when the initial two years are over, but based on the debt cancellation commitment I’m definitely pledging.

Just finalized my pledge this morning - I too have some questions but as we can cancel payments I'd rather pay now to at least reduce some of the debt.

You'd hope that after the initial two year period then another window will open for more pledges maybe to acquire a larger shareholding than 15% or invest more? Depending on what actually comes into the first team after all these pledges I think we should also consider looking at ways our pledges could be used to create more revenue streams for the club too or what we can do in the youth system to develop talent and sell for more money.

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Aye, it’s interesting... £400k for a £2.5M debt write-off and 15% shareholding, with all of the £400k going towards strengthening the team looks like a fair proposition.

There are a couple of issues, though:

1. At currrent pledge levels, we look only to be in a position to contribute £144k over two years. The calculation must be that things will snowball and more pledgers will come on board when they see it’s ‘real’, but that is a punt; if nothing changed, it would take nearly six years to get to the target amount...

2. If we end up with a debt-free club, that is clearly a good thing. But Golden Casket will remain owners of 85% of a debt-free, and therefore much more saleable, asset. They must therefore calculate that they will get back more of their overall investment at the point of eventual sale. That could be achieved simply by writing off the debt... but there would in that scenario be no £400k coming in to the club. So the supporters are essentially being asked to keep the club going until the current owners can sell on terms that recover at least some of their accumulated investment...

Concerned about the first part and can’t help resenting the second part, but still likely to get involved, on the basis that there doesn’t look to be any real alternative.

Mon the fuckin Ton.

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For Saturday, don't queue up like raging Falkirk fans 👍

 

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Even after yesterday's embarrassment I was looking to maybe going to Alloa at home next week.

£15 for a student? Am I the only one grudging this as a concession or is this a pretty reasonable price? Can't even comprehend paying 20 quid to see the shite on display.

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Hearing Hopkin has spoken with Greg Tansey after his release today.

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6 hours ago, Tri-TON said:

Even after yesterday's embarrassment I was looking to maybe going to Alloa at home next week.

£15 for a student? Am I the only one grudging this as a concession or is this a pretty reasonable price? Can't even comprehend paying 20 quid to see the shite on display.

If van Shite and Blues are in the team again then I'll probably stay in the pub. I'm fine with contributing through the MCT scheme regardless but if the club also wants people to pay 20 quid a pop to watch a game then they need to put a proper team on the park for this level instead of those shan ringers. 

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Isn’t he injured, a bit of a gamble if you sign him.
A bit? Career ending very possibly.

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Tansey has osteomyelitis which has worsened to the point of needing surgery.

St. Murn wanted him to pay for his own operation, then it was announced that he and the club have parted company by mutual consent.

Can't see him signing for anyone, anytime soon.

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