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Keeper you had second half of last season was much the same... 
Highly rated Scotland U21 International who has progressed through the youths at a Premiership team, rated as a future number 1 for Rangers and Scotland, who had a full season at Berwick before stepping up to the Championship to continue his development.

Vs an English non-league nomark, signed by a manager who hadn't seen him play on the recommendation of a coach who knows little about what is required at this level.

Yup, entirely the same...

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43 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Highly rated Scotland U21 International who has progressed through the youths at a Premiership team, rated as a future number 1 for Rangers and Scotland, who had a full season at Berwick before stepping up to the Championship to continue his development.

Vs an English non-league nomark, signed by a manager who hadn't seen him play on the recommendation of a coach who knows little about what is required at this level.

Yup, entirely the same...

Maybe I'm wrong , but I think the word "Whoosh" may be in order here.......

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Our goal-keeping coach recommended we sign him. He may have potential I'm not sure, but what I am sure of is he's not ready for Championship level of football.

Our goal-keeping coach has just cost us an outfield player as we will now have to use our loan/budget to bring in another keeper  

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4 hours ago, Alibi said:

 I know he's a young keeper and maybe with coaching he will develop, but he's no Derek Gaston or Robbie McRorie, both good keepers at our level for us.  I wonder what transfer fee we would need to fork out to get Gaston back from Arbroath - and why was he not offered enough money to stay anyway?

 

16 hours ago, Tri-TON said:

To think we wouldn't offer Gaston a good enough deal is just even more sickening now.

What evidence is there that a lack of money was the main reason that Gaston didn't stay at the club? He has two other jobs as well and wasn't getting game time last season; it's far more likely that part-time football at Arbroath was simply a better option all round for him at this stage in his career.

I really don't understand the pining for Gaston after last night either. We have brought in half a dozen goalkeepers over the past three years because Gaston didn't make the no. 1 jersey his own and so we wanted to have a better option in the future. When Pearson was added to the squad in January it was  quite clear that he would be pushing into the first team this summer, which pointed a senior first team player like Gaston towards the exit door. What we saw last night was the performance of a second-choice goalkeeper - it's hardly unusual for them to be dodgy as f**k at this level - and we simply have to wait for Pearson to be fit and hopefully prove much better than that level of performance. If that doesn't happen then signing and retaining Pearson will have been the blunder here rather than not keeping Gaston. 

 

 

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^^^ pretty much nailed it there. Pearson will be first choice when fit, Ramsbottom has to hold the fort till then. And Gaston gets a regular game and keeps his other employment. 

We've been Unlucky with Pearson's injury but hopefully he'll be over it soon and in the team. 

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On 13/07/2019 at 13:34, virginton said:

If McGeever wanted to stay part-time, then he could have found a dozen better clubs to sign for than Dumbarton right now. But none of them actually wanted him, because he is a useless haddy. Thanks for playing anyway. 

Dumbarton are allowing to continue his uni course FT, other clubs couldn't guarantee that so suited him better 

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Playing in a terrible back line that ships goals for fun every week suits him better as well, because that’s his absolutely dung level.

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13 hours ago, virginton said:

Playing in a terrible back line that ships goals for fun every week suits him better as well, because that’s his absolutely dung level.

<<<`look over there`

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On 20/07/2019 at 13:55, virginton said:

 

What evidence is there that a lack of money was the main reason that Gaston didn't stay at the club? He has two other jobs as well and wasn't getting game time last season; it's far more likely that part-time football at Arbroath was simply a better option all round for him at this stage in his career.

I really don't understand the pining for Gaston after last night either. We have brought in half a dozen goalkeepers over the past three years because Gaston didn't make the no. 1 jersey his own and so we wanted to have a better option in the future. When Pearson was added to the squad in January it was  quite clear that he would be pushing into the first team this summer, which pointed a senior first team player like Gaston towards the exit door. What we saw last night was the performance of a second-choice goalkeeper - it's hardly unusual for them to be dodgy as f**k at this level - and we simply have to wait for Pearson to be fit and hopefully prove much better than that level of performance. If that doesn't happen then signing and retaining Pearson will have been the blunder here rather than not keeping Gaston. 

 

 

Fair point, VT, although given that it was McRorie who kept Gaston out the team, if Gaston knew McRorie wasn't returning he might have stayed on.  We don't know all the ins and outs but Gaston has demonstrated over 7 seasons that he is a perfectly adequate keeper at our level despite his known deficiencies.  The point is that Gaston, and especially McRorie, were both better options than Ramsbottom, who so far appears to be a complete imposter.  If this Pearson guy, about whom I know nothing, is our first choice keeper and is any good, then we can probably live with that.  I assume Ramsbottom will be in the goal tomorrow night, and maybe he might show something to justify his signing, but if not then I would say we have wasted a wage and we will be living in fear of Pearson getting injured.

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On 20/07/2019 at 12:24, Jamie_M said:

Highly rated Scotland U21 International who has progressed through the youths at a Premiership team, rated as a future number 1 for Rangers and Scotland, who had a full season at Berwick before stepping up to the Championship to continue his development.

Vs an English non-league nomark, signed by a manager who hadn't seen him play on the recommendation of a coach who knows little about what is required at this level.

Yup, entirely the same...

I’ve seen this play out before...

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I’ve seen this play out before...
Thankfully we are not moronic enough to fill an entire squad with those.

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20 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Always.

 

Rarely. And not that time. 😜

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I’m sure some people may know, but for those who don’t there is a new Fantasy football Scotland app, I will leave the link to the app on Apple devices below, on Android just type in Fantasy football Scotland and it should pop up

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/fantasy-football-scotland/id1469063365

I have created a league for all Pie and Bovril users if anyone wants to join, we already have around 30 people in the league just from the initial thread so hopefully we can get more, the code to join the league is

PRANJXBW

Hopefully we can get a good amount of people in :)

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Is Orsi injured or have we just realised very quickly that it was a stupid signing and he's not good enough to even fill a space on the bench?

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Injured but because communication is so poor from the club, no idea what the injury is.

Wonder if we will try and get Dykes out on loan? Not seen any competitive game time i don't think so doesn't look like Hopkin fancies him at all.

 

 

 

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Hopkin in the Tele saying he will be looking to hopefully bring in a defender or two this week. Also says he hopes to bring in one or two  permanent signings as well as some loans.

2 CBs, 1 LB and another striker would be ideal.

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3 hours ago, madton said:

Hopkin in the Tele saying he will be looking to hopefully bring in a defender or two this week. Also says he hopes to bring in one or two  permanent signings as well as some loans.

2 CBs, 1 LB and another striker would be ideal.

Could be wrong but I think there will be a keeper brought in

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44 minutes ago, Colkitto said:

Could be wrong but I think there will be a keeper brought in

Don't think you're wrong... Hopkin comes across as pretty hard headed and I'll be amazed if he goes with Pearson or Ramsbottom as first choice. 

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On 25/07/2019 at 09:36, madton said:

Injured but because communication is so poor from the club, no idea what the injury is.

Wonder if we will try and get Dykes out on loan? Not seen any competitive game time i don't think so doesn't look like Hopkin fancies him at all.

 

 

 

Dykes joins Stenny on loan for the season.

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