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16 hours ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

If we’re honest, it’s just ‘don’t know’.

We’ve barely seen Wallace, and Omar, who played as a more or less ‘free’ attacking midfielder at the lower level, has never played there for us. Looked terrible in centre-mid and at right-back, but who knows if there’s something there at L1/L2 in his best position.

Regardless of being out of position, the lack of basic competence was evidence enough.

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Sir David Irons' 45 minute rule to spot ba haddy has never failed, and Omar was not even remotely up to standard.

Yet another example to bear in mind the next time that we sign some obviously dung jobber from the North Caledonian League or somewhere, and the happyclappers insist that they must not be negatively judged before they kick a ball. Which is obviously how every other business goes about recruiting employees. 

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On 28/03/2021 at 20:10, ATLIS said:

Any idea who'd we be looking at on a pre-contract from you guys? Someone seems to think we're looking into something

Yer getting Cammy Blues back and you can like it.

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The only proportionate response to Livingston giving us Blues and taking actual money for Henk Van Schaik in the first place is returning Blues and also giving them Orsi, Muirhead and Salkeld. Offloading that shower would be some degree of revenge.

The only out of contract players whose performances suggest they could move to the top flight one day are McAdams and Colville, and in both cases it's definitely potential rather than being ready.

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35 minutes ago, virginton said:

I think they might be after Strapp, but if they're after any of our out of contract wonders then I couldn't give a toss tbh. None are irreplaceable after this nick of a campaign. 

Another sign and loan back deal?

Would suspect Colville who has potential and might add to their squad.

Look at what they did for Dykes and does anyone see a player in there yet?

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Hi, How are you?

Me and my friend we decided write the book of Greenock Morton.

The One season, the best season in the history

We tell the history season, the match and the sensation the fans.

Which the best season for the fans? 

For me 1967-68 my friend 1980-81.

For yours? Sorry my english and i hope understand 

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You have to acknowledge that there's an unavoidable dilemma with the squad we've got and that's due to the terrible hand MacPherson has been dealt by Hopkin and McElhone, but he's still getting something less than the sum of its parts.

There's an argument for teams who are weak defensively to play a back three as it ostensibly makes you more adept at shitfesting with an extra body in defence. This has worked for us in the past, eg in 18/19 when having two of McAlister/Waddell/Kilday either side of Buchanan made us less susceptible to pumpings. It isn't working this season, because this back three has McGinty in it who is much, much worse than any of those four and no defence he's in is going to grind out regular clean sheets. We could be playing an 8-1-1 and McGinty would contrive to give his man 5 yards of space from crosses, costing us goal after goal.

The other issue is our weak as piss attacking options. None of them are good enough for this division regardless, but they're certainly not suited to playing as lone strikers. So as well as removing a midfielder to play the back three, MacPherson feels he needs to remove one to have two centre forwards as well, along with wanting Nesbitt playing just off the two strikers. It's been more of a 3-4-1-2 or 3-4-2-1 than 3-5-2, but adding numbers to both the defence and attack to try to compensate for how weak we are in personnel only serves to weaken us in the one area where we actually have solid Championship players.

Jacobs, McGinn (although he was stinking last night), Lyon & Colville are all good central midfield options. You also had McGuffie's form being the sole positive of McElhone's tenure. With the way we're setting up there's no place for an out and out winger like McGuffie and he can only accommodate two of those four central midfielders.

When you don't even have 11 players good enough for the division you're in, you simply can't be dropping three who are up to it to accommodate the likes of Kalvin Orsi. I would abandon the back three entirely and launch McGinty into Beaufort's Dyke, then you could get four of them into a midfield five, but knowing that there's little chance of MacPherson deviating from it he needs to at least remove an attacker and get another player in the middle of the park.

One of Oliver or Nesbitt playing as a second striker off Muirhead rather than having both, then you have McGinn and Jacobs sitting and one of Lyon and Colville ahead of them. If you need to be more attacking you have both Lyon and Colville and drop McGinn. We're going to struggle for goals regardless, we can't surrender the midfield the way we did not just last night but against East Fife in an attempt to resolve that. That doesn't stop us losing bad goals, doesn't stop us being toothless in attack but does mean we end up overrun in the area of the park where we can actually compete.

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2 hours ago, Dunning1874 said:

You have to acknowledge that there's an unavoidable dilemma with the squad we've got and that's due to the terrible hand MacPherson has been dealt by Hopkin and McElhone, but he's still getting something less than the sum of its parts.

There's an argument for teams who are weak defensively to play a back three as it ostensibly makes you more adept at shitfesting with an extra body in defence. This has worked for us in the past, eg in 18/19 when having two of McAlister/Waddell/Kilday either side of Buchanan made us less susceptible to pumpings. It isn't working this season, because this back three has McGinty in it who is much, much worse than any of those four and no defence he's in is going to grind out regular clean sheets. We could be playing an 8-1-1 and McGinty would contrive to give his man 5 yards of space from crosses, costing us goal after goal.

The other issue is our weak as piss attacking options. None of them are good enough for this division regardless, but they're certainly not suited to playing as lone strikers. So as well as removing a midfielder to play the back three, MacPherson feels he needs to remove one to have two centre forwards as well, along with wanting Nesbitt playing just off the two strikers. It's been more of a 3-4-1-2 or 3-4-2-1 than 3-5-2, but adding numbers to both the defence and attack to try to compensate for how weak we are in personnel only serves to weaken us in the one area where we actually have solid Championship players.

Jacobs, McGinn (although he was stinking last night), Lyon & Colville are all good central midfield options. You also had McGuffie's form being the sole positive of McElhone's tenure. With the way we're setting up there's no place for an out and out winger like McGuffie and he can only accommodate two of those four central midfielders.

When you don't even have 11 players good enough for the division you're in, you simply can't be dropping three who are up to it to accommodate the likes of Kalvin Orsi. I would abandon the back three entirely and launch McGinty into Beaufort's Dyke, then you could get four of them into a midfield five, but knowing that there's little chance of MacPherson deviating from it he needs to at least remove an attacker and get another player in the middle of the park.

One of Oliver or Nesbitt playing as a second striker off Muirhead rather than having both, then you have McGinn and Jacobs sitting and one of Lyon and Colville ahead of them. If you need to be more attacking you have both Lyon and Colville and drop McGinn. We're going to struggle for goals regardless, we can't surrender the midfield the way we did not just last night but against East Fife in an attempt to resolve that. That doesn't stop us losing bad goals, doesn't stop us being toothless in attack but does mean we end up overrun in the area of the park where we can actually compete.

The games, or periods in games, under McPherson when we've looked competent Oliver has been on the pitch. I'm not a huge fan and he definitely doesn't give the goal threat that you'd want from a forward but he's absolutely key to letting us get up the pitch as the only forward who can hold onto the ball with any regularity. Otherwise we get absolutely pummeled by any team willing to come out and attack us, and if Mcginty is in there run the serious risk of gifting goals. I can't see him being dropped though unfortunately.

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If Arbroath manage to scramble a few points from their remaining games (and they certainly have more forward momentum than us or Ayr) then it's gonna be pretty ironic if the guy who left us in mid-season manages to keep Ayr out of ninth at Morton's expense.......    🤥

 

.......another case of Crawford shooting himself in the foot.

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